Posted on 10/07/2006 7:40:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
John Aravosis is yapping up a storm, and letting out details he doesnt quite comprehend are (a) not common knowledge and (b) implicate him as working to orchestrate Foleygate in the media. It is important to note all the activity in July of 2006 regarding the non-salacious emails between Foley and a Page from Louisianna (aka, the LA Page). I have done numerous posts on these emails (the last one here with back referencing links). Reader TopSecretK9 as reminded me of this Aravosis comment when he admitted in October that he had the Foley Emails in July and mentioned he had done nothing after talking to CREW. She found this recent Aravosis post which tipped some more information out:
When I received the Foley emails this past July, had I been warned two or three years ago that Foley was stalking pages, Id have turned the emails over to the FBI myself, not waiting for CREW to do it (which was shortly after I received them anyway)
(Excerpt) Read more at strata-sphere.com ...
fyi
I've been following the story, but cannot remember who John Arovosis is. Could you get me up to speed?
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The question is where did Aravosis get his copies. Interestingly, Aravosis posted the FORGED versions of the emails from the StopSexPredators (SPP) website! These are clearly forged because there is no date fields in the headers and the punctuation is not right compared to those from ABC News and CREW. Why did Aravosis use the faked up versions on his blog? We need to see what versions he has, but the only version he showed were those from SSP. He admits coordinating things with CREW and uses the forged emails to create a post (in haste, no doubt). We seem to be getting closer to the truth.
I think he is pardnering with Mike Rodgers.....in the outing exercise....one of the many threads had something on him....but I don't remember which one.
Somebody will likely be along and educate us both.
Ernest, I cannot keep up with this. Do you know if there is a list somewhere of the names of the people involved in this and thier positions and/or blogs? I am just totally lost.
I think the Blog with the story has a timeline,...new names keep appearing though,...it's moving pretty fast and I wasn't in on it at the beginning.
Onyx might be around and she was,,,,
But let me make a try here ....
This is starting to resemble the faked up story on President Bush and his National Guard Issues....
A NGO heavily involved is the one headed by a Ms Sloan,...I believe....funding from Soros....name Is CREW ....one witty Freeper is suggesting it be called SCREW for Soros and Clinton for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington
CREW= Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW)
I'm here, but on the FReepathon thread.
You're doing magnificently!
I will check back and meanwhile am going to check the other threads.
What onyx said.
Thanks!
I am going to pledge I promise....
Should have added ....IMHO......
Foley Setup? - The Key - Danielle Savoy?
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From the Palm Beach Post back on September 29th:
WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Mark Foleys campaign Thursday called the disclosure of a series of e-mails between the congressman and a 16-year-old former congressional page a political attack and the worst kind of character assassination.
But the campaign of Foleys challenger, Democrat Tim Mahoney, denied he was behind the release of the e-mails and said the issue should be a matter for the appropriate authorities to investigate.
The e-mails - which Foley spokesman Jason Kello said Foley wrote a year ago - publicly surfaced Sunday on an Internet blog site devoted to exposing sexual predators.
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According to sources familiar with the e-mails, the page - who lives in Monroe, La. - forwarded copies of Foleys e-mails to Danielle Savoy, a former scheduler for U.S. Rep. Rodney Alexander, a Republican from Monroe. Savoy could not be reached for comment and Alexanders office did not return phone calls.
Note the former and the fact that no one has heard of her since.
Update just above.....
Danielle Savoy? MIGHT have been previously mentioned. Not sure. GOOD catch, Ernest!
I'm gonna drop this in here so I don't lose track of it ( The Rubbies are fighting back ) :
Nancy Pelosi's Ethical Hypocrisy
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Pelosi Trip To Puerto Rico Comes Into Question As
Minority Leader Continues Partisan Attacks Against Republicans
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Reports Indicate Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) Took Trip With Democrat Ethics Committee Member Who Listed Lobbyist As Paying For Travel:
"House Republicans ... Called On Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi To Provide Documentation To Prove That A Washington Lobbyist Firm Did Not Pay For A Trip She And Other Democrats Took To Puerto Rico In 2001." (Charles Hurt, "Pelosi Pressed For Trip Records," The Washington Times, 4/22/05)
"The Washington Times Reported Earlier This Week That Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Ohio Democrat And Member Of The House Ethics Committee, Listed A Registered Lobbyist As The Trip's Sponsor. ... After The Discrepancy Was Made Public, Mrs. Jones Amended Her Travel Disclosure Form To Match Those Of Mrs. Pelosi And Other Travelers." (Charles Hurt, "Pelosi Pressed For Trip Records," The Washington Times, 4/22/05)
Tubbs Jones Received $5,000 Contribution From Pelosi's PAC, PAC To The Future, In 2001. (Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 4/22/05)
Pelosi Refuses To Release Records To Prove That Lobbyist Did Not Pay For Puerto Rico Trip:
"Mrs. Pelosi Also Refused To Provide Any Such Documentation, And Testily Dismissed Questions ... About The Matter. 'There's No Discrepancy In The Records On My Trip,' The California Democrat Said. 'So That's All I Can Answer For.'" (Charles Hurt, "Pelosi Pressed For Trip Records," The Washington Times, 4/22/05)
"Literally Days Before DeLay's Trip, KORUSEC [Korea-United States Exchange Council] Had Changed Its Legal Status And Registered As A Foreign Agent ... KORUSEC Admits Failing To Report The Changes To DeLay And Other Trip Participants. ...This Did Not Stop House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Whose Own Staff Member Had Traveled With KORUSEC, From Attacking DeLay." (Eric Pfeiffer, "Target: DeLay," National Review, 4/11/05)
"The Aide To Pelosi, Eddie Charmaine Manansala, Took A Trip Sponsored By The Council From June 26 Through July 3, 2004, But Only Filed The Required Disclosure Form With The House On [March 9, 2005]." (Larry Margasak, "Nearly Two Dozen House Members And Aides Accept Improper Travel," The Associated Press, 3/10/05)
Another Pelosi Staffer Took Trip Paid For By Pelosi Donor, As Pelosi Helped Donor Get Federal Money:
"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Helped Secure $3 Million Last Year For A Nonprofit Transportation-Research Organization Whose President Gave Money To Her Political Action Committee As The Group Was Paying For A European Trip For One Of Her Policy Advisers." (Stephen Dinan, "Pelosi Helped Donor To PAC," The Washington Times, 4/5/05)
"Transportation Adviser Lara Levison's Nine-Day, $4,475 Trip To Spain And Germany ... Was Primarily Paid For By WestStart-CALSTART." (Stephen Dinan, "Pelosi Helped Donor To PAC," The Washington Times, 4/5/05)
Pelosi Turns House Ethics Committee Into Venue For Partisan Attacks:
"While Pelosi Has Portrayed Herself Repeatedly As Having No Role In The DeLay Case, Or Anything Else Before The Ethics Committee, [Ethics Committee Ranking Minority Member] Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-W.Va.) Acknowledged In An Interview Last Week That He Has Met With The Minority Leader Recently On The DeLay Matter, Now At A Critical Juncture." (John Bresnahan, "Pelosi Monitors DeLay Probe," Roll Call, 9/27/04)
"Pelosi, Who Served For Seven Years On The Ethics Committee, Has Stated Numerous Times That She Has Nothing To Do With The Decisions Made By The Ethics Panel, And Knows Little Or Nothing Of What Is Happening Inside The Committee." (John Bresnahan, "Pelosi Monitors DeLay Probe," Roll Call, 9/27/04)
"'As I Told You Before, As A Longtime Member Of The Ethics Committee, I Thought Matters Of The Ethics Committee Were Within The Ethics Committee,' The California Democrat Declared On March 18." (John Bresnahan, "Pelosi Monitors DeLay Probe," Roll Call, 9/27/04)
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Pinging backhoe. Lots of GOOD information here.
GREAT research!
I'm just cutting and pasting....
It needs to be archived.
GOOD info.
Foley camp: Release of e-mails with teen 'political attack'
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By Larry Lipman
Palm Beach Post Washington Bureau
Friday, September 29, 2006 WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Mark Foley's campaign Thursday called the disclosure of a series of e-mails between the congressman and a 16-year-old former congressional page a "political attack and ... the worst kind of character assassination." But the campaign of Foley's challenger, Democrat Tim Mahoney, denied he was behind the release of the e-mails and said the issue should be "a matter for the appropriate authorities to investigate."
2005 Miss Gheens Bon Mange Queen XVIII
Danielle Savoy
A lot of interest in the Speaker.
Plateauing : Chart the Foley scandal
http://technorati.com/chart/foley?chartdays=10
Escalating : Chart the Hastert scandal
http://technorati.com/chart/hastert?chartdays=10
Special attention here:
Media Matters for America
"Media Matters is not "whining", they are taking one of the only approaches available given the reality underlying our situation."
I'm guessing the same line of folks involved in this were also the ones that "outed" that guy from Talon News that the press railed about until he was driven from the White House press corp
Jeff Gannon. Yes, probably so. He still writes and I read him occassionally.
Check out the funny comment:
http://www.jeffgannon.com/
ROTFL!
Thought you'd enjoy that!
You know, Gannon is/was a FReeper, but I haven't seen anything posted in a long time.
Another piece in the whole defoliation:
Sure you know Kirk Fordham used to work for David Corn at The Nation before going to The Hill.
Google Stratasphere blog and timeline. Everyone's adding on to it there.
Another page, via the LA Times
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A former House page says he had sex with then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) after receiving explicit e-mails in which the congressman described assessing the sexual orientation and physical attributes of underage pages but waiting until later to make direct advances.
The former page, who agreed to discuss his relationship with Foley with the Los Angeles Times on the condition that he not be identified, said his electronic correspondence with Foley began after he finished the respected Capitol Hill page program for high school juniors. His sexual encounter was in the fall of 2000, he said. At the time, he was 21 and a graduate of a rural Northeastern college.
I always knew you were a player but I dont fool around with pages, declared one instant message from Maf54, a screen name Foley used in exchanges that have become public involving male former pages.
The former pages account is consistent with Foleys assertion that he did not have sexual relations with minors, an issue that will be key to determining whether he committed crimes. The legal age of consent varies from state to state; in the District of Columbia, where the pages live in supervised dormitories, it is 16.
More pages, no doubt the page flood gates are opening. The problem is with the anonymity. The question is just WHO is this page, and how do we know what we are hearing is true?
First, dont you think that - if true - Foley prowled the halls of congress we would have heard something long before now? I mean, the creep was in congress for twelve years. You mean to tell me that this page - now twenty seven - comes forward NOW to tell his story? But there are other flags to his story.
Yet the former pages exchanges with Foley offer a glimpse of possible predatory behavior by the congressman as he assessed male teenagers assigned as House errand-runners.
In the messages, Maf54 described how years earlier, he had looked to see whether the former page had an erection in his tight white pants while the then-teenager was working near the congressman. Maf54 also speculated about the sexual attributes of other males in the same page class, including the observation that one young man was well hung.
Foley abruptly resigned his House seat Sept. 29, after the disclosure of sexually oriented messages to former pages. Other messages were subsequently divulged, and questions concerning how much House Republican leaders knew about Foley and his interest in pages are being investigated by the House Ethics Committee. Foley is now in seclusion in an alcohol treatment facility, and his lawyer has declined to answer questions about specific pages.
The FBI has begun contacting former pages, and at least one a deputy campaign manager for Rep. Ernest Istook, an Oklahoma Republican who is running for governor there has hired a criminal defense lawyer, according to a published report. Istook issued a statement last week urging the media to protect the young mans privacy after his name was briefly posted on the ABC News website.
The former page interviewed by The Times said he had not been contacted by the FBI or the House Ethics Committee. He agreed to talk to The Times only if his identity was protected, because of his fear that exposure could hurt his job prospects.
Note that Edmund hired a criminal defense attorney, and I love the urging the media to protect the young mans privacy, yeah, like with threatening letters. Im all for protecting any of Foleys victims, but this kid sound more like subject than a victim.
Additionally, this page claims that his experience occured during his junior year in school while a page which would put it around 1996. Now I have a lot of legacy software, and America Onlines Instant Messenger for certain in its capabities were limited, in fact it wasnt released until May of 1997. At the very least it wasnt until version 2.0 that it had close to the capabilities shown here.
Again, Im not defending Foley, or challenging the vercactiy of any of these witnesses. But if they were this concerned they should have spoken before now, and they should be talking with the FBI, not the LA Times.
From: Macsmind
The only really really strange this Edmund hiring Tim McVeigh's attorney.
Some are wondering if BLACKMAIL was what the page had in mind.
The first statement from Foley after he went into rehab was.....I am gay!
* Joseph Biden : CREW has been active only since February [2003] , so its profile is still relatively low. Yet Republicans detect a strong Democratic orientation.[Melanie] Sloan, most recently an assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, is a former aide to Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del.; then-Rep. (now Sen.) Charles Schumer, D- N.Y.; and Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich...... -------http://www.citizensforethics.org/news/20030719_natljrnl.php via 10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo123
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In 1993, Ms. Sloan served as Nominations Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee, under then Chairman, Senator Joe Biden, where she researched the backgrounds of nominees to high level Department of Justice positions and to the federal courts. --------11 posted on 01/28/2004 10:54:52 AM PST by jimbo123 )
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NOVEMBER late - early DECEMBER 2003 : (JOE BIDEN MEETS WITH FRENCH LEADER CHIRAC) Is he saying that Joe Biden is going around the world talking to world leaders about getting Bush out of office?
Joe Biden had a private meeting with Chriac back in late Nov, early Dec. I made some posts about it then.
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CREW's executive director Melanie Sloan stated "Despite evidence to the contrary, the Bush Administration has repeatedly claimed that it has nothing to do with SBVT or its ads. If this is true, then the White House should have no qualms about releasing information regarding any contacts between White House officials and those connected with SBVT."
I am adding names to ( hopefully a ping list that won't last very long) ******let me know if you prefer not getting pings ....
NOVEMBER end - DECEMBER 2003 : (GENEVA, SWITZERLAND : "GENEVA PEACE FEST" TALKS ON MIDEAST PEACE-- See RICHARD REYFUSS & JIMMY CARTER- [Did BIDEN visit here, too?) A familiar roster of revered retirees, unemployables and butt-of-the-joke losers - plus an Oscar-winner who undisputedly did not deserve that honor - gathered in Geneva this week to talk to themselves. The subject of the confab was Mideast peace. Easy to get. Easy to keep. Golly, why didn't someone think of this before? So what if generations of politicians, diplomats and religious leaders have tried and failed to broker a permanent end to hostilities?
You know the planet is in capable hands when the master of ceremonies of foreign relations, lured from semi-retirement to star in the Geneva Peace Fest, is none other than Richard Dreyfuss - the hack who beat Richard Burton as best actor for his role in 1977's "The Goodbye Girl," before graduating to play Scoop the Snowman in "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Toys."
Dreyfuss was joined in Geneva by ex-President Jimmy Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner who these days also suffers from a serious excess of free time.
...But it was Carter, who's hidden his sharp teeth behind an aw-shucks smirk for far more years than he allowed American hostages to be held captive in Iran, who gave voice to the true message behind the so-called "Geneva Initiative."
Carter put the blame for Mideast terrorism - and that would include attacks such as those on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - not on the shoulders of the Islamofascists. He unequivocally blamed President Bush.
"The present administration in Washington has been invariably supportive of Israel, and the well-being of the Palestinian people has been ignored or relegated to secondary importance," Carter declared. "Without a resurrection of strong and unbiased American influence, Israeli and Palestinian extremists will prevail.
"There is no doubt that the lack of real effort to resolve the Palestinian issue is a primary source of anti-American sentiment through the Middle East and a major incentive for terrorist activity."
Carter, who failed at achieving peace, joins the Hollywood chorus that looks the other way at Islamic atrocities, while advancing the fiction that selling out Israel will stop the carnage. And now he has an audience.
------(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...------ "ALLIANCE OF ARROGANCE GATHERS FOR SWISS SUMMIT," (Peanut Farmer Blathering), by ANDREA PEYSER, New York Post, 12/02/03
CREW's three board members are Mark Penn, President Clinton's former pollster; Daniel Berger, a trial lawyer from Philadelphia and a Clinton fundraiser; and Louis Mayberg, the president of a mutual fund company. ...10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo123 --http://www.citizensforethics.org/news/20030719_natljrnl.php via 10 posted on 01/28/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by jimbo12
CREW's boardmember Daniel Berger donated $100,000 to the group "America Coming Together" in May 2004 and $13,750 to the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee in June 2004 according to The Hill in March 30, 2005
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