Posted on 09/06/2005 11:52:50 AM PDT by freepatriot32
An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen!
Guns Save Lives!
No Guns, No Rights!
Freedom Is Worth Fighting For!
I checked your bio page - Apparently you don't! :-)
MOA = "minute of angle"
every angular degree is composed of 60 angular minutes.
every angular minute is composed of 60 angular seconds.
at 100 yards, one MOA = .86inch
this means that the "circular probability of impact" for a "minute-of-angle gun" has a radius of .86" centered on the point of aim.
Sweet gun!!!!
thanks. it IS :)
Amen.
Man, I guess you haven't a clue about how it was done in Britain.
"We have a different perspective on guns in Canada, where I live anyway."
No kidding. Unfortunately, I'm a history major, and every country I've studied, clear back into ancient history, that has disarmed the citizens has become despotic, and usually crashed and burned when the people can't defend themselves when the barbarians show up, or from their own government, either. People in this country have been trying to get everyone to register their guns since I was in high school, at least. That is precisely the first step in disarming them, as demonstrated, like I said before, by the Soviet Union and the Third Reich. I'm not on for making that mistake here. Not to mention that our founders set up our government to prevent such things. See what Thomas Jefferson said about personal ownership of firearms, and tell me anything like registration would be legal?
Also, look at New York's "success" with their Sullivan Act.
"There are no reasonable arguments in favor of gun control".
Heck there aren't!!! Gun control is necessary to make sure you put holes only in those things that you intend to put holes in. Gotta have lots of gun control for that. If you're agreeing that there is no legitimate reason for disarming the citizens of the United States, from whom the government derives its legitimate powers, you're absolutly right. Amen, indeed.
"well since this turned into a gun porn thread..."
My brother and I took my youngest daughter to the local gun shop with us one day for sightseeing (they have the most amazing floor decorations: animal tracks, fish skeletons, a small alligator, etc, embossed in the concrete).
She looked at all the guns in the shop, and said "Daddy, I want that one..." while pointing to the engraved and cased presentation colt with the $20k price tag. That's my girl. Most expensive piece in the store.
Oh, did I forget to mention that we fought England precisely because governments can become tyranical? The UK may have mellowed out some, since then, but they've also started to swing back in that direction, again, too. I'm glad the Brits are on our side in Iraq, but when a farmer can defend himself against burgalars who've repeatedly hit his place, and wind up in jail, they're losing sight of what it is supposed to mean to be an Englishman. Subjects, not citizens.
"I would expect to see a similar pattern emerge if this ever started in the US."
I think you're missing the point. They have been trying this in the US for more than 30 years. Way more, in fact, as the Sullivan Act is from the 1890's, IIRC. If Canada is ready to give up so quickly, it just means some of your people are faster learners than some of ours, but I wouldn't bet on your liberals being done with it. You'll need to keep a close eye on them. I don't believe Canada has a Constitutional guarantee of right to keep and bear arms, as we do. Truthfully, I have never read your Constitution, if you have one. I know that the English constitution is not just one document, like ours is. I've read the Magna Carta, and the 1689 Bill of Rights, but I don't know that they haven't been superceded by later documents. I know that Englishmen HAD such a right, but as far as I can tell, they've lost it. I don't intend to see that happen here.
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