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What Michael Moore and Liberals Don’t (and Will Never) Understand About the Second Amendment
http://mensnewsdaily.com ^ | September 06, 2005 | http://mensnewsdaily.com

Posted on 09/06/2005 11:52:50 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Some of the most heartening tales coming out of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are the tales of Americans standing up and taking responsibility for their own safety and survival rather than whining about “the government” not taking care of them.

The Washington Post reports that in Popps Ferry Landing, a neighborhood near Biloxi, Mississippi, the local neighborhood watch is keeping an armed night watch to prevent looters from invading the neighborhood. Following the looting of the local Dollar Store, neighbors who very rarely spoke to each other, got together to protect their own. They’re not going out hunting down anyone; they’re just camping out at their houses with their constitutionally protected firearms preventing the roving bands of criminals from destroying their peaceful middle class neighborhood.

It is times such as these, for which the Second Amendment is so important. In the aftermath of the greatest natural disaster in the history of this nation, it is the citizen himself that must stand in the breach of the wall of civilization, created by the storm and the consequent disorganization and lack of police presence, to protect himself from the anarchy which reigns in the world outside. These are the minute men of the 21st Century. These are ordinary middle class men, plumbers, engineers, managers, carpenters, and salesmen who have gotten out of their easy chairs and off their sofas, gone out into their neighborhood and introduced themselves to their neighbors. They have, in this time of danger decided, not to wait around to become a victim and then whine about why our government hasn’t done something to protect them, but to take responsibility for their own safety. Our Founding Fathers would not be proud of these men they would merely nod their heads in acknowledgement of men doing what should be expected of them.

It is precisely this for which the Second Amendment was designed. I know it’s difficult for Liberals to understand, but as we are seeing currently, we can’t always depend on the police. The Second Amendment is not, much to the chagrin of Liberals like Michael Moore, Al Gore, and John Kerry, about a person’s right to hunt; it is about the American citizen’s right to feel safe in their own residence. This fact which so sadly escaped the two last Democrat candidates for President is what made the images of John Kerry traipsing around in borrowed jacket with borrowed gun attempting to look like a hunter so hysterical to the gun owners of America. The N.R.A. is not about arming criminals like Michael Moore has inappropriately and inaccurately tried to portray in his crassly exploitive movie “Bowling for Columbine,” it is about educating the American citizen on the rights and responsibilities of gun ownership, the proper use and care of those firearms, and the protection, from those who would usurp those rights under the misapprehension that a gun-free state is a safe state, of those rights as guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

It is true that guns are designed for the purpose of killing. They are the most efficient form of killing that the average citizen has available to them. They are also the most effective form of self defense the average citizen has available to them. In their absence, individuals, men, women, and children are at greater risk. To an unarmed man, alone on a road or in his house, a group of four or five (or even a couple) burly men intent on evil represent a real life threatening situation; to an armed man, or women, properly trained in the use of firearms, they become a manageable threat. In a society in which the criminal frequently has more rights than the victim, being armed should be, as the Second Amendment intends, an untouchable right. Carrying a firearm, whether concealed of openly, should not only be allowed, it should be encouraged. The fact of the matter is, the better armed the citizens of a community, the lower the crime rate, particularly the violent crime rate, of that community. Those cities like Washington D.C., New York, and possibly soon to be San Francisco, have the highest per capita violent crime rate in the nation.

As can be seen in the Popps Landing example, total dependence upon government agencies for our safety can quickly turn into a liability, if those agencies are overwhelmed by circumstances beyond anyone’s control. At a time when police response to emergency calls can be five to ten minutes (if not much longer) it is ludicrous for the American people to be forced to rely on the government for their protection, as the anti-gun lobby would have us do. That is a real path to the imprisonment of the average citizen inside their houses. In Britain, certainly there is a lower murder rate than in the U.S.A., but the overall violent crime rate is considerably higher than in America. Groups like Handgun Control International, Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, and Common Cause would have Americans surrender their rights to self-defense for the illusory concept of complete safety. There is no such thing as complete safety, and a person can be as easily and more surely killed by a knife as a gun. It has been stated by the Second Amendment lobbying groups so often as to become a trite saying, “if guns are outlawed; only outlaws will have guns.” Trite maybe, but also true, so true that it becomes a profound statement of universal truth. By definition, an outlaw, a law breaker, a criminal, does not care whether or not he is breaking the law by carrying a firearm. If a person has criminal intent, he will find a means to implement it.

These people, people of the left like Mr. Moore, are the same people who would have had us unilaterally disarm during the cold war in the face of a growing Soviet Nuclear threat. President Reagan, proved how mistaken the unilateralist’s position was by presiding over the first stages of the complete dismantlement of the Soviet Union. Unilateral disarmament in the face of a known threat is an invitation to victim hood. It is only by show of strength that threat can be countered. This is not some new “off-the-wall” concept, this is human nature at its very core. The anti-gun forces exhibit the same Pollyannaish naiveté of human nature that the Marxists do. There are and always will be predators in our society. It is the human nature of some to covet more than their “fair share.” The entire concept of “fair share” is faulty thinking based on the mistaken concept that material wealth is a zero sum game. It is also human nature for some in our society to desire that for which they are not willing to work. They are the predators which must be confronted in everyday life. If relying on the police was a successful concept, there would be no crime. No one would have to lock their door and a woman walking downtown after dark by herself would neither be uncommon nor foolish. Since not even the most rabid Liberal in society would consider that situation reasonable behavior, the basic premise of their arguments against guns is false. I dare say that Sarah Brady would not feel comfortable walking the dark alley ways of D.C. even though there are extremely strong anti-gun laws in place there.

There are no reasonable arguments in favor of gun control, only emotional ones. That is why one so often hears bogus statistics coming out of the anti-gun lobbyists. Thankfully, most Americans understand this concept and reject the irrational policies recommended by the gun haters. You will also hear them claim that they are not anti-gun, rather that they are only seeking to impose “reasonable” restraints on gun ownership. This is an evolutionary principle for them brought about through their numerous defeats, by gun owners, in their legislative endeavors. You will often hear them use the phrase “I am a hunter myself...” or “We’re not talking about taking away a hunter’s guns...” invariably followed by the word “but.” They then will use the phrase, “reasonable people,” or “reasonable restrictions,” so as to make it clear that only an “unreasonable” person would object to their efforts to restrict gun ownership.

In a society of law-abiding citizens, we have nothing to fear from an unrestricted right to gun ownership. Law-abiding citizens are by definition going to obey the law. By restricting their “right to keep and bare arms,” we only encourage law breaking by those same citizens. Laws are intended to preserve freedoms, not restrict them. In committing a crime, someone is infringing on the rights and freedoms of another. In an armed society, those who would seek to impose their will on another are significantly less inclined to do so. It is for that reason, that the citizens of Popps Ferry Landing will not have to worry about having their property destroyed or stolen, their families killed or injured by marauding bands of criminals. And the authorities will not be additionally burdened in the exercising of their duties responding to this crisis.

An armed citizenry is a safe and fearless citizenry.


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To: hiredhand
here's my baby:

an Egyptian AK47, highly customized by yours truly.

21 posted on 09/06/2005 12:21:33 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: recce guy

When you say "stiffer than the current US laws", are you referring to "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? or the other laws that infringe?


22 posted on 09/06/2005 12:21:59 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Spktyr

well put.


23 posted on 09/06/2005 12:23:08 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: recce guy

HCI (or whatever they are now calling themselves) favors eventual complete disarmament of the civil populace.


24 posted on 09/06/2005 12:24:43 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: recce guy
Is Michael Moore actually in favor of total disarmament or more gun control because there is a difference? I'm not a Michael Moore fan so don't flame me but I think it is important to accurately report a person's position on a given topic. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that gun control advocates are actually seeking some form of stiffer control....maybe not as bad as Canada but stiffer than the current US laws.

There's no difference other than how fast total disarmament is accomplished. Those who want more regulation are doing it incrementally, but their ultimate goal is also total disarmament. Basically same end result, different tactics.

25 posted on 09/06/2005 12:25:18 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: King Prout
That's neat! :-) Good job! Here's my favorite..."Mostly" an STG-58 FAL.

POP!

I took the scope off because my daughter wanted it on her Ruger 10/22. I've got a C-More Railway on it now.
26 posted on 09/06/2005 12:26:47 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Jeff Head
I believe that the Micahel Moores and their ilk understand this protection very well and it is the principle reason they want it done away with...so they and their ilk can have a free hand.

You obviously understand the Second Amendment AND the left's reasons for wanting it done away with. This is why they are so "flat earth" about it and arguments against registration and confiscation have no resonance with them.

They want the guns taken up for the same reasons the Nazis and the Soviets wanted them taken up.

27 posted on 09/06/2005 12:27:24 PM PDT by Marauder (You can't stop sheep-killing predators by putting more restrictions on the sheep.)
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To: freepatriot32

"Following the looting of the local Dollar Store..."

Is that a joke?


28 posted on 09/06/2005 12:31:13 PM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: hiredhand
this gives a better view of some of the modifications. the pic is over a year old - it has evolved a bit since then, and shall evolve further as time and efforts permit:

Image hosted by Photobucket.com

29 posted on 09/06/2005 12:31:41 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: hiredhand

btw - what IS that thing on the right side of the fore-end? flashlight?


30 posted on 09/06/2005 12:33:41 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: King Prout

Woah! Hold up! Did you convert that AK to bullpup?!


31 posted on 09/06/2005 12:33:50 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Gefreiter
"Following the looting of the local Dollar Store..." Is that a joke?

unfortunately no that really happened

32 posted on 09/06/2005 12:34:32 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: recce guy
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that gun control advocates are actually seeking some form of stiffer control....maybe not as bad as Canada but stiffer than the current US laws.

I'm going to correct you because you ARE wrong.

While they proclaim incrementalism in terms of controls, they are following the playbook that was invented by the anti-smoking lobby.

Remember how in the beginning they just wanted to ban smoking in the front of airliners?

It's a perfect illustration of Hayek's dictum about attempts to impose central economic planning in "The Road to Serfdom":

The initial attempts at control fail, and so subsequent and more stringent attempts at control must be made in order to retain power.

The ultimate result of this (both in terms of firearms and economic planning) is totalitarianism.

33 posted on 09/06/2005 12:38:12 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: AlaskaErik
I have a hard time believing these groups seek total disarmament but I don't pay much attention to them. Have any groups actually claimed this or is this just paranoid speculation. Total disarmament is a ridiculous position to take and would be impossible. Are they just seeking to have assault rifles banned or registration of hand guns or a total ban on all forms of weapons??
34 posted on 09/06/2005 12:39:01 PM PDT by recce guy
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To: recce guy
Stiffer control in the face of the constitutional mandate that government "shall not infringe" is just another step towards gun control, registration and ultimate governmental control

All of those are steps down a very bad path.

Moore is an advocate of steps down that path.

35 posted on 09/06/2005 12:39:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: recce guy

No flames. When you say "gun control advocates are actually seeking some form of stiffer control" what you need to add, is that the ultimate goal is ban private possession of arms. The US Constitution as written does not allow that. Prior to the 14th Amendment maybe the states could do that, but not after it was passed. Notwithstanding the black robed tyrants who will find out too late, that they are not the last word in Constitutional jurisprudence. The people are.


36 posted on 09/06/2005 12:39:45 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: King Prout

YES! It's a Pelican M-6...BLINDINGLY bright out to about 75 feet. It gives one "about" 2.5 seconds to decide friend or foe while the person on the receiving end recovers from the disorientation it causes in low light. :-)


37 posted on 09/06/2005 12:41:40 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Jeff Head
The protection the seond amendment thus affords is also, as I say, very good for protection against the lesser criminals associated with looting and civil upheavel during such disasters as well, which are also perfectly capable of making you dead if you are not suitably armed.

Congratulations on your reference to "lesser criminals." It implies that socialists like Michael Moore are greater criminals, which they certainly are.

38 posted on 09/06/2005 12:47:54 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Those lesser criminals, while dangerous at the individual level, are out for a very limited amount of death and or destruction. The liberal elite and other leftists or RINO look alikes, like all tyrants, have a much broader view in mind that will effect hundreds of millions.


39 posted on 09/06/2005 12:50:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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