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The Dark Frontier ~~ Resurgance of Marxists and Islamic Militants in South America ~ Belmont Club
The Belmont Club ^ | Tuesday, August 23, 2005 | wretchard

Posted on 08/23/2005 10:17:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tuesday, August 23, 2005

The Dark Frontier

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's press conference enroute to Paraguay is interesting for a number of reasons -- the first being Paraguay itself. The Power and Interest News summarizes the region's strategic importance to the US. South America is wracked by a confluence of resurgent Marxism, fueled by Venezuela and Cuba; failing states and coca. Of particular interest is the Tri-Border area, centered on the town of Ciudad del Este in Paraguay on the border of Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina. The Associated Press described it as "a key South American point for Islamic terrorist fund raising to the tune of $100 million a year." The Tri-border area is sometimes described as the Muslim Triangle and is alleged to be one end of a conveyor belt leading to the US southern border.

So great is the supposed US interest in the Tri-Border area that the Vermont Guardian hinted at the planned establishment of an American military base in the vicinity, an allegation that Paraguay later denied. The Vermont Guardian echoed the characterization of Tri-Border area a possible springboard for Islamic terrorism.

The triple border between Paraguay, Argentina, and Brazil has been long been rumored to be an “Islamic terrorist training ground.” According to New Yorker reporter Jeffrey Goldberg, the area is “one of the most lawless places in the world … also the center of Middle Eastern terrorism in South America.” In 2002, Goldberg reported that Hamas and al-Qaeda are associated with the terrorists in this region.

But Vermont Guardian journalist Benjamin Dangl noted that some sources felt that the perception of Al Qaeda in South America were the fevered imaginings of an agent of Zionism, just as was the connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.

As the U.S. was gearing up for a war in Iraq, Goldberg also wrote an article linking al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein that was used by the Bush administration to further their argument for war. Muckraking writer Alexander Cockburn found various inaccuracies in the article, and also noted that “Goldberg once served in Israel’s armed forces, which may or may not be a guide to his political agenda.”

Whatever the truth to these rumors, Rumsfeld's press conference produced another gem on the arming of the Iraqi insurgency by Iran. After the media asked precisely one question about the Tri-Border area ("Q: Will you be talking about the tri-border issue in Paraguay? A: I think the cooperation that the countries in the tri-border area have demonstrated has been a useful and constructive thing. It's been good. ...") they skipped straight to the subject of the Middle East.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; paraguay; southamerica; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 08/23/2005 10:18:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WW-III


2 posted on 08/23/2005 10:20:12 AM PDT by maestro
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To: maestro; Dog; Coop; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; SierraWasp; Brad's Gramma; Mo1; ...
Belmont Club is so GOOD!!

Closing statement:

Divided Western public opinion on the subject of Islamic terrorism has prevented the issues from being faced definitively. Neither the liberals nor the conservatives -- like the isolationists and interventionists of the 1930s -- have been able to establish a consensus for their point of view. Policy is consequently being made in fits and starts in the tug-o'-war between the sides, essentially awaiting events before taking a categorical direction. Whether that direction will be a genuine "peace for our time" or a new Pearl Harbor is unknown. Until history resolves the dilemma the twilight struggle will continue all over the world, from the Tri-Border area to the Iranian frontier. posted by wretchard at 6:05 AM 34 Comments:

3 posted on 08/23/2005 10:28:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Belmont Club is always wonderful.

The article he mentions has been posted here at FR. It's here:

Paraguay in the cross hairs: Signs point to U.S. military base

4 posted on 08/23/2005 10:36:06 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Thanks.


5 posted on 08/23/2005 10:47:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Throw in the words terrorist, Al Qaeda, or Muslim, and you can pretty much go wherever you want, do what you want, and spend as much as you want!!


6 posted on 08/23/2005 11:00:35 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

Is that a shot at Bush and Rumsfeld?


7 posted on 08/23/2005 11:10:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just an obseervation..


8 posted on 08/23/2005 11:12:53 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

Seems to reveal something about the observer.....


9 posted on 08/23/2005 11:14:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Most observations do..


10 posted on 08/23/2005 11:16:57 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Belmont Club is so GOOD!!


Bump
11 posted on 08/23/2005 1:03:08 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for ping. Will check out Belmont article.


12 posted on 08/23/2005 1:47:06 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So from the Muslim Triagle Article, it is quite clear that we are up shits creek without a paddle, unless all southern borders can somehow be sealed so well that no one ever crosses without full background searches etc.. Heaven knows how many terrorist may already have entered the USA via. the Mexican border. It would appear Muslims with reasonable Spanish language skills are being accquired. I would think it would take some time before one could speak Spanish well enough to fool any border control person that is used to listening to Mexicans speak. Then again they are playing the percentages. You only need so many goons to get in and set up shop.


13 posted on 08/23/2005 2:41:22 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like we have a little problem in Paraguay. To darn much world to have to keep under wraps. Chicoms as well obviously are taking as much advantage as they can in central America, Cuba, Venezuala etc.. But I was quite surprised, shouldn't have been, that so much Islamofacist activities are operating down there. The know where to go where weak governments exists etc., that allow them to operate quite freely. We seem to have just a tiny problem on our hands.


14 posted on 08/23/2005 4:04:17 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle; kellynla; Dog; Coop; TexKat; Gucho; F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn; BOBTHENAILER; OXENinFLA; ...

Guess I need to ping some more folks that might like to know more about this.


15 posted on 08/23/2005 6:36:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Marine_Uncle

"""Heaven knows how many terrorist may already have entered the USA via. the Mexican border."""

Heaven knows no terrorist would dare!

You see, according to Vincete Fox every poor uneducated Mexican should be able to sneak across the border and make a bunch of pesos, hoping they aren't so miserably poor once they return. Buy a little casa or something.

So he fights tooth and nail to keep the border relatively easy to sneak across.

And he's watching that border LIKE A HAWK, making certain only his amigos & amigas take advantage of this nice welcome gesture by the Americans.

Because if he didn't GWB would close it. Pronto!!


16 posted on 08/23/2005 7:42:38 PM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: RedwineisJesus

"You see, according to Vincete Fox every poor uneducated Mexican should be able to sneak across the border and make a bunch of pesos, hoping they aren't so miserably poor once they return. Buy a little casa or something.
So he fights tooth and nail to keep the border relatively easy to sneak across. And he's watching that border LIKE A HAWK, making certain only his amigos & amigas take advantage of this nice welcome gesture by the Americans.
Because if he didn't GWB would close it. Pronto!!"

Understand. I cannot fault your analysis in that there could be underlining agreements that required the Hombres keep Islamos in check. Interesting. Perhaps New Mexico and Arizona, and California should offer bandidos a bonus for every Ah Rab they can hual across the border with a bullet in their heads. Could improve relations on the border.
Sort of make the Mexican feel they are helping their neighbor to the north.
Of course we must admit for some good reasons others bad, legit Mexicans should be allowed to do work Americans are not willing to do, after all someone gotta pick the lettuce before it bolts.


17 posted on 08/23/2005 8:01:58 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

"""Mexicans should be allowed to do work Americans are not willing to do, after all someone gotta pick the lettuce before it bolts."""

Yes, and whatever else they excel at.

Americans are into aerobic exercise so much these days, let them chase after the ones that bolt.


18 posted on 08/23/2005 8:22:50 PM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: RedwineisJesus

"Americans are into aerobic exercise so much these days, let them chase after the ones that bolt. "

heh heh heh. pretty good.


19 posted on 08/23/2005 8:36:56 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

"""heh heh heh."""

"Posted by Marine_Uncle to RedwineisJesus
On Bloggers & Personal 08/23/2005 8:36:56 PM PDT · 19 of 18"

19 of 18 ??

HOW DID YOU DO THAT ???







20 posted on 08/23/2005 8:51:09 PM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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