They CAIR, Or Else

Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 8/23/05 | Bob Parks

[bocopar]

Forgive me if I interpreted the words (1st Amendment) incorrectly, but where does it say anything about not hurting anyone's feelings or pointing out facts even though they may be painful? With that, where does the Council on American-Islamic Relations get off going around suing people and getting people fired for stating what is to this day a fact that cannot be honestly refuted: Islamic fanatics want to kill everyone not Islamic?

[jigsaw]

Well said (the entire article)!

[Gabz]

Excellent

[ANGGAPO]

When CAIR begins to condemn the Islamic terrorists I will become a believier. Until then they all get painted with the same brush.

[Cicero]

Yes, all well said except for the four letter words, used sparingly at the rate of about one per article, but still unnecessary. I understand the indignation that inspires them, but there are better ways to vent.

[milford421]

CAIR will do no such thing. They support terrorists and it has been documented on a number of occasions.

CAIR's aim is to implement the first steps of their goal towards turning America into an islamic nation.

One of the first steps is to suppress criticism of islam and the destruction of our free speech rights.

Excellent article.

[bocopar]

I've heard that several times before, Cicero, and I appreciate your critique. However, I've never claimed to be a bow-tie Republican and I am probably one of the only conservatives who gets mad enough to use profanity in almost every column.
That's how I talk.
That's who I am.
To use flowery words to show anger takes the meat out of my opinions.
There are many other writers who are "proper."
And they all sound the same....
Bob

[Join Or Die]

This person seems to be confusing the right to free speech with the right to use his at-will employer's radio tower to diseminate it. The right to free speech does not come with a free soapbox to stand on, you have to provide that yourself.

It's the radio stations choice (albeit a poor one in my opinion) to fire this guy if they feel his show is not the type of show they want for any number of reasons including CAIR getting on their ass.

[bocopar]

But there is also a difference between slander and giving one's opinion, which talk radio hosts do 90% of the time while on the air.
Again, why hasn't Nina Totenberg, Julianne Malveaux, Michael Moore and most of MoveOn.org been taken off the airwaves for calling for the deaths of some Republicans?
Because of our freedom of speech in America. If you don't like what some people have to say, change the channel. But getting people fired because of the complaint of a group that has sympathized with terrorists, shows a complete misdirection of priorities.

[TrailofTears]

My dispute is over the usage of the word Islamo-fascists. I don't believe that they are considered radicals by most followers of islam. I think they are considered to be warriors in the cause of spreading the faith. I think they are not extremists to the majority of Islamic people, they are a vanguard for them.

As to the issue of 1st Ammendment rights and the radio station? See my other posts on that issue. They do not own the public airwaves, they borrow them and are accountable for their usage of them. We can cause some serious amount of trouble by making an issue of the link between wmal and the Cair group. Cair has had some number of their people prosecuted and deported over the links they had to muslim terrorists groups.

[TrailofTears]

Also the Fatwa that Cair keeps claiming is the proof that they are not radical is not all that it is put up to be. It is not an absolute stand against muslim terrorism, but merely a statement against terrorism in general, but with many included exceptions that would let muslims off the hook.

[Rammer]

Excellent article!

[lowbridge]

bump

[MarMema]

previous case which Cair did not win

[MarMema]

writing which made Cair so angry in my above post - from 1999!!!

[Uncle Vlad]

When CAIR begins to condemn the Islamic terrorists I will become a believer. Until then they all get painted with the same brush.

CAIR cannot condemn Islamic terrorists because it was started by Islamic terrorists.

[hattend]

Excellent article.

WMAL should be ashamed. But I guess you have to have some morals to be ashamed.

[hattend]

Interesting report. I readily admit I'm an Islamophobe.

[Join Or Die]

"Again, why hasn't Nina Totenberg, Julianne Malveaux, Michael Moore and most of MoveOn.org been taken off the airwaves for calling for the deaths of some Republicans?"

What about Ann Coulter with her famous "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building." quote, why is she allowed to still print books?

"If you don't like what some people have to say, change the channel."

I agree 100%

"But getting people fired because of the complaint of a group that has sympathized with terrorists, shows a complete misdirection of priorities."

Couldn't agree more, however if that's their perogative they can pressure his employer to fire him, and his employer is well within its rights to take whatever action they deem fit. This is not a free speech issue.

[Join Or Die]

"See my other posts on that issue. They do not own the public airwaves, they borrow them and are accountable for their usage of them."

You've pointed out a much larger issue here which I agree with strongly, but I still do not see this as a first amendment issue.

"We can cause some serious amount of trouble by making an issue of the link between wmal and the Cair group."

I guess if that's the battle you want to pick, but to say there's a "link" between WMAL and CAIR and in turn supporting terrorism over this is about as plausible as the link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda. I think you're reading into it far too much and personally I'll save my breath for when there's something to actually make a ruckus over.

We as conservatives need to save our ammunition for when it really matters instead of huffing and puffing every time the littlest thing happens that we don't like.