Posted on 07/19/2005 7:39:11 PM PDT by dukeman
A quick scan through DU's latest posts after the Roberts announcement produced the following:
GarySeven (718 posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:33 PM
Original message
To WAR!!!!
Bush's pick is a direct assault on the social progress of the 20th century. This creature, Roberts, is the spawn of the Federalist Society a twisted, sick and perverted "school" of "scholars" whose theories on the Constitution are warped and distorted with no basis in fact and with no fidelity to nearly 250 years of American jurisprudence.
As of tonight - unless we act - not only is Roe v. Wade overturned, but so are ALL federal powers to enforce fair commerce, ensure safe products, food and medicine, not to mention the rights and civil liberties of anyone not fortunate to be born white, male and Christian.
Bush was elected - excuse me, selected - for the sole purpose of destroying social progressivism and returning the country to the post-Civil War level of individual protections. NO MATTER WHAT this person says, he WILL overturn the laws his conservative masters desire him to and there will be NO way of stopping him.
Maat (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
1. Amen!
Reporting for duty, Sir.
ClintonTyree (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
2. We have 5 weeks to prepare for that battle....... at this moment we are locked in another battle that may make the other moot. We must concentrate on Plamegate and not be distracted by this Neanderthal selection. For now. There will be a time and place for that battle, but it is not now.
In 5 weeks there may be no bush White House left. THAT is what we must concentrate on now.
OrangeCountyDemocrat (338 posts)
Response to Reply #2
3. TREASONGATE...Not Plamegate
CubsFan1982 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #2
4. No Bush White House left?
Methinks someone's being a little unrealistic.
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bribri16 (267 posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:32 PM
Original message
Dems should confirm Roberts immediately and get back to Rove!!
There is nothing I can see about Roberts that deserves a filibuster or a difficult time during confirmation. If they want to screw this administration they should get rid of the distractions and get back to Rovegate-DSM-Bush lies.
Langis (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
1. I agree
Let's get back to Rove
liberaliraqvet26 (295 posts)
Response to Original message
2. i'd vote for him....
lets get back to the fat cherub
cally (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #2
5. Why would you vote for him?
He's for keeping the Cheney energy task force secret, he's against Roe v. Wade, he's against environmental protection.
liberaliraqvet26 (295 posts)
Response to Reply #5
12. because were not gonna get any better
he's a wild card and is definitly capable of moving to the left over time.(like souter & kennedy have) he does not appear to be a knee jerk wacko like thomas and scalia. he is capable of thinking unlike those two. fact is hes going to be confirmed so lets not drag it out and get back to beating up on rove
newsguyatl (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #12
15. yeh, yeh
let's just pass on through a guy who'll help overturn roe v wade...
hurry hurry!
move along, nothing to see here!
bowens43 (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
7. This is far more important then 'screwing the administration'.
This man is an extremist. A partisan hack who has twice been rejected by the US senate. He is a rabid anti-choicer and helped the bushies steal the 2000 election. He is YOUNG we are talking about decades of this conservative lunatic making choices that affect our lives.
clitzpah queen (5 posts)
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24. This Either/Or Thinking is Dangerous This is just what Repubs want folks to say. Why choose between legitimate fights? Both battle fronts are important -- but the Supreme Court because of its scope of influence and the potential length of time this justice could serve his corporate masters (a an oh-so-nice, friendly and professional manner, no doubt) is even moreso. Before you say "nothing I can see about Roberts that deserves a filibuster" -- do your research. This is a VERY STEALTH CANDIDATE because of the limits of paper trail on him. My guess is that he probably doesn't have as many outrageous quotes as Ms. Brown had from speeches she gave -- which doesn't mean he doesn't have the evil in him. Already a few days ago he supported a team that defended unprecedented sweeping powers of the Executive to deem who is an enemy combatant and what happens to them.
The LINK TO ROVE of this issue is that ROVE probably helped push for him as a choice and gets to mastermind a lot of the spin as to what gets said about him. If Dems get sucked in by this "moderate and reasonable" PR then they deserve to go down in FLAMES. It'd be like saying "SCREW the women, SCREW the children, SCREW the unions, SCREW the environment, SCREW our privacy" etc.
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:31 PM
Original message
"If we don't fight this, I'm Leaving the Party!!!"
My response: Good. Leave. You're a pain in the ass.
This guy is filibuster proof, pure and simple, and alienating the vast majority of Americans with a drawn out filibuster will do much more damage to the Democratic Party (and to abortion rights) than alienating the party purists, who will come moping back here in 2006 anyway.
There should be reasonable hearings with aggressive questioning, especially on women's rights. The Democrats should promote a women's rights campaign to coordinate with these hearings, just to get people's radar up. If anything ugly comes out, a filibuster should be discussed then. As it stands, however, the guy looks acceptable, and starting off swinging is just plain stupid. You wanna leave? Leave. I, for one, will be happy to see some of the dogmatists depart.
imenja (1000+ posts)
Original message
who said they'd leave the party?
Some people on this site threaten that at least once a week. It's sooo boring.
LoZoccolo (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
45. The first and last refuge of the vegetating Internet "activist"...
...is to sit back and act like they have power to do things by posting messages. [Shhhhhhh! You'll wake the others]
Carni (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #7
38. All I needed to hear was this guy was involved in the 2000 *recount*
I want to claw my own eyes out and then dip my head in lye but what difference would THAT make?
Because behind him bush will have a myriad of nutcases and extremists and loons and eventually one of them will be confirmed--so what is the point of directing the media into a frenzy at the expense of rovegate and Iraq-gate etc.
I see doing that as giving the rove team exactly what it wants currently.
I say the hell with this and stay on the trail of bush's assorted crimes, because we will be stuck with some ****head of bush's choosing on the supreme court anyway.
jsamuel (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
5. Why do you give up so easily? Are you weak?
Can't have two balls at once?
Look at the Neo-Cons they are attacking us on all fronts! We can't affort to fight one battle at a time.
liberaltrucker (211 posts)
Response to Reply #5
23. In case you haven't noticed
We're the minority right now. We must choose our battles. That doesn't mean we're weak.
VelmaD (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #23
47. And when will we actually chose women's rights... as our battle? You know...rights that affect more than half of all Democratic voters. Let me know so I can mark my ****ing calendar.
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:29 PM
Original message
Goodbye Roe ; Hello Back-alley Butchers
Amazing how people forget before R v.W.
Rich people will fly to europe to get abortions.
Poor people will get coat-hangers, pelvic infections , sterility and possible death.
Unbelieveable.
Even my 91 year old aunt/godmother is past outraged.
Lecky (438 posts)
Response to Original message
1. What if he doesn't want to overturn R v. W?
mdmc (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #1
3. still be outraged
that it isn't Gore nominating Cuomo.. [Sorry, forgot to give the barf alert warning!]
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cupcake (35 posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:21 PM
Original message
What else will this Roberts guy do?
This is so depressing, everything we have fought for is slipping away. He'll probably make bible reading mandatory and put guns in every home. What can we do?
Tux (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
1. Er
Michigan Militia? Who knows? It's all over till CAFTA makes people wake up from lost jobs, lost homes, and their college grads can't get good jobs.
enigami (794 posts)
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2. I already got a gun
kinda short on blbles. Is that a problem? come on you can do better than that.
lvx35 (404 posts)
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3. Free guns!
Wow, now there's an interesting approach to welfare!
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BullGooseLoony (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-19-05 09:19 PM
Original message
Poll question: Would you have given up the Alamo?
Poll result (14 votes)
Yes (11 votes, 79%)
No (3 votes, 21%)
How should I know? Don't make me imagine being in that position. (0 votes)
whyverne (12 posts)
Response to Original message
1. Why Texans drive me nuts.
They had no legal right to be there and they were outnumbered thousands to one. That's not bravery, that's dumb.
despairing optimist (959 posts)
Response to Original message
2. Considering what's been coming out of Texas lately, hell yes
I'd have gotten Bill Moyers and Molly Ivins out before surrendering, though.
Jersey Devil (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
11. Are you saying all Dems should fall on their swords over Roberts?
Don't you understand that the Repubs are baiting the Dems into opposing them so they can make the Dems look like the party that stands for nothing and opposes everything?
Unless there is some dirt on Roberts we don't know about that surfaces during the hearings the Dems will look stupid opposing him.
Hmm. Certainly a concern. They would never has said as much about Michael Luttig. Pity that he will never sit on the bench, since Bush will most certainly name a woman next time around.
Beware anyone named Alcibiades!
The original Alcibiades of Classical Greece was a dangerous, treasonous, lecherous, decadant dilettante with delusions of grandeur. A blasphemer of the Gods, he switched sides at least 3 times during the Pelopponesian War, ultimately embracing the Dreaded and Wicked Persians.
Anyone who chooses that name knows all of this and should be watched carefully...
Thank you mmercier! It is a refreshing place with nice folks.
"Carni (1000+ posts)
I want to claw my own eyes out and then dip my head in lye but what difference would THAT make? "
Funny stuff!
I'll supply the lye, I wonder where I should FedEx it?
The mental health industry will be working 24/7 to take care of these loons.
Man sometimes it's really fun just to sit back and watch people like this.
This would really be a good time to wear the Club Gitmo shirts, that might just blow a few extra gaskets around this great nation.
Now that has a catchy sound to it:
The DRAMACRATIC PARTY!!
What are they going to do when that whole matter evaporates and Karl Rove is left standing and laughing? DU is going to need massive Suicide Hotline intervention!
" To avoid Luttig or Brown (or even Estrada) should anger us."
I'm more angered by Republicans who throw mud mindlessly. Look at his record. He has written some opinions (few). He has an environment record on coal energy (very conservative) and abortions (supreme court made a mistake).
If you don't think he is conservative enough site examples, otherwise you just sound like a Bush hater.
Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com
"In 5 weeks there may be no bush White House left. THAT is what we must concentrate on now."
So what does THAT tell you? They were trying to use the Rove issue to push impeachment proceedings, maybe? They definitely got Bushwhacked this time. (I wouldn't doubt it if Rove even played a part...going in as a 'sacrificial lamb' of sorts...but I am only able to say that in hindsight myself.)
Clearly their heads are spinning tonight. They don't know how to get out of the Rovian Maze in which they now find themselves. Should they vote yea or nay on Roberts? Shall they try to rekindle the embers of the Plame naming game flame? How can they even get back on track when they've been broadsided by the Bush-Rove Express?
I hope when a moonbat calls the "suicide Prevention" line they get put on hold.
LOL!
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do!
Anyone ever post this?
Oh, never mind. They'd say the pics were all Photoshopped.
You nailed that. I am having so much fun, that I will have to buy dinner out tomorrow night for sure now!! Thanks for the welcome.
Orca , err, Oprah and Grozny O'Donnell
" not only is Roe v. Wade overturned, but so are ALL federal powers to enforce fair commerce, ensure safe products, food and medicine, "
My God he may actually use the constitution as a check on unlimited government power and return power to the people?
OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE .....
SammyBlue (264 posts) =
Response to Original message
150. This is the best the RETARDICANS can do?
This is the best?
A lifetime lawyer, a partisan right wing tool and someone with less juidical experience than Clarence Thomas had when Nebish Boosh nominated him?
SOMEONE GET THE DUCT TAPE. These retardicans are making my head explode!!!
Dang! Someone over there is actually thinking. Who'dathunkit
They don't seem to realize that Rovegate is a lost cause too, because he didn't break any laws.
If only that were true. I'm somewhat disappointed in the pick. Yes, he's got a fine mind and he is conservative. He's a charmer and will be hard for the rats to slime. All good.
But there is NO evidence that he will be a Thomas or a Scalia. From what I can see, he's an incrementalist and is unlikely to lead the Court significantly more rightward than O'Conner. I'm pretty confident that on social issues, he will replace O'Connner as a swing vote, although he may come out right more often than O'Conner. This improves the Court a little; but is not going to contribute the revolution in jurisprudence that is needed to move the Court back from 70 years of abuse of the constitution.
That he will be so easily confirmed validates this conclusion. He's about as good as the dems could have reasonably hoped for and, from their perspective, it could have been a whole lot worse. From my perspective, it should have been a whole lot better.
Maybe he will grow into a more originalist position. Sigh . . .
LOL! A case of highly-contagious and rapidly spreading PEST.
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