Posted on 06/02/2005 4:17:31 PM PDT by david ford
I'll reply to this with details.
Darwinian a-morality; Hitler was a homosexual
There were a large number of German atheists in post-Darwin, pre-Holocaust Germany, considering the huge numbers of materialism conversion experiences engendered by the pop-science writings of Haeckel and Buchner. Ref:
Weikart, Richard. 2004. _From Darwin to Hitler: Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics, and Racism in Germany_ (USA: Palgrave Macmillan), 312pp., 12. About Weikart's book:
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407030531.19253d93%40posting.google.com
Goldschmidt's atheist conversion experience
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-38m3vrF5o7bk2U1%40individual.net
Einstein's freethought atheist conversion experience
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-37f67dF59po8jU1%40individual.net
The vast expansion of atheism following the publication of Darwin's 1859 _Origin of Species_ helped bring about a Darwinian a-moral climate that in turn helped make the Holocaust possible.
Every account of human origins has a corresponding view of human morality/ethics, and every view of human morality has a corresponding account of human origins.
See
Wiker, Benjamin. 2002. _Moral Darwinism:
How We Became Hedonists_ (Downers Grove, Illinois:
InterVarsity Press), 327pp.
It should come as no surprise that much of what ails American society (for example abortion, violence and murder, high rates of sexually-transmitted diseases, and death-by-starvation of the disabled) are an outgrowth of materialism influencing the thinking of Americans, especially elite and influential Americans.
Compare
Haeckel on murdering the disabled
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3a8etdF65smnrU4%40individual.net
Convert to secular humanism to enjoy guiltless sexual activity of many varieties.
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409241109.17e2611d%40posting.google.com
The prevalence of the worldview philosophy of materialism/atheism among the elite in this country (specifically those in many churches, the courts and legal system and law education, other higher education and secondary education, and the media), contributed to the appearance of a culture of death, which contributed to Terri Schindler Schiavo's being starved to death. A handful of individuals wearing Supreme Court robes accelerated our culture's slide downward to a culture of death with the 1973 _Roe v. Wade_ ruling.
1979 Schaeffer & Koop on a-moral implications of materialism
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0504061225.4c675814%40posting.google.com
Darwinists downgrading the value of human life
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-399aluF5uql89U1%40individual.net
any atheists against Terri Schindler Schiavo's being starved to death?
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3adrlvF69l60hU1%40individual.net
1922 Nordau; 1976 Reagan; 1997 Wesley Smith on Germany's slippery slope slide from devaluing some human life to a little euthanasia/ killing to mass killings
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
It is vitally important that the intelligent design revolution occur and sweep materialism/atheism out of our society, especially out of the aforementioned consciousness-raising/ influencers sectors of our society. Only then can a culture of life appear, where humans are viewed as created in the image of God and thus extremely special and due respect and honor and good moral behavior towards. As it is, our culture of death presently aborts millions of pre-born human lives each year, has much abuse of children and violence, and is creeping toward mass infanticide and killing of the disabled and elderly. Human life is cheap in a materialist/atheistic universe.
In short, the stakes are very high in the debate of creation/ intelligent design versus evolution/atheism/materialism.
The creation versus evolution battle is of foundational importance.
Not only is intelligent design theory good for society, but it's also correct given the evidence from biology and physics.
See
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
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Hitler was a homosexual
Berlin in the 1920s has some intriguing parallels with America of the 2000s.
See
Friedrich, Otto. 1972. _Before the Deluge: A Portrait of Berlin in the 1920s_ (NY: Harper & Row, Publishers), 418pp., 127-31 (prostitution, transvestites), 233-4 (sexual 'reformers' preaching 'tolerance' of anything), 330-44 (mass murderers, murder, cocaine addiction).
In the very early 1900s, there were homosexual subcultures in many European capitals, e.g. Vienna.
See
Machtan, Lothar. 2001. _The Hidden Hitler_, translated by John
Brownjohn, notes translated by Susanne Ehlert (USA: Basic Books), 434pp., 48, 51, 59.
On Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465043097/qid=1117047383/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-5363513-6758530?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Some will choose to deny the parallels between Europe of the early 1900s and America of the 2000s, and engage in Darwinian moral climate denial.
Such denial has occurred before-- see the thread associated with
1940 Nazi film "All Life is Struggle" embraced Darwinian natural selection
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407042043.1c2ccf1f%40posting.google.com
review of _Cruel World: The Children of Europe in the Nazi Web_
http://www.washingtontimes.com/books/20050514-102418-1431r.htm
"Adolf Hitler even proposed state-supported plural
marriages."
Compare today's push by some for polyamory.
Eva Braun, a supposed mistress of Hitler, was actually a prop: she and Hitler weren't sexually involved. Ref:
Machtan, 169-171.
Lipstadt, Deborah E. 1986. _Beyond Belief: The American Press and the Coming of the Holocaust 1933-1945_ (New York: The Free Press), 370pp., 37 (during a 1933 Nazi parade, a reporter points to the Nazi leadership and IDs Roehm as a former lover of Hitler, and IDs another person as the current lover of Hitler).
From
http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/donovan/hitler/
on pages numbered 135-6:
5. Hitler was chiefly attracted during these early years to
a homosexual, Ernst Roehm, a superior officer with an
upperclass background. The physical strength and social
assurance of Roehm were much envied and, to have the
political backing of such a figure, gave Hitler a sense of
security.
On 19:
(iv) attraction to Roehm and other domineering
homosexuals;....
On 201:
(v) Attraction to homosexuals followed by their murder.
It is known that Hitler had a special admiration for
Roehm; whether it was this individual or Hitler himself
who was chiefly responsible in attracting such a large
proportion of homosexuals to the Nazi Party is uncertain,
but it is known that after two or three months of anxiety
and delusions to the effect that Roehm and his fellow
homosexuals were plotting to usurp power Hitler had
them all murdered in the purge of 1934.
On 137:
9. Among the reasons given in extenuation of the cold-
blooded purge of 1934 were (a) that the victims were
disgusting homosexuals and (b) that they were plotting to
snatch the power and supercede him.
On 13-14:
_This mechanism whereby a man sees his own wicked
impulses or weaknesses in others, _is called projection_.
It is one way, _the paranoid way_, _of maintaining
self-esteem_. The mechanism occurs so constantly
in Hitler that it is possible to get a very good idea of
the repudiated portions of his own personality by noticing
what he condemns in others -- treachery, lying,
corruption, war-mongering, etc.
Objection: But wasn't Hitler openly against homosexuality?
See especially the quote just above. Compare:
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From
http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/donovan/hitler/
on pages numbered 5-6:
1. (b) _Admiration of Pure Noble German Blood,
Contempt of Jewish, Slav and Other Blood_. -- Hitler
has always extolled the superior qualities of pure,
unmixed, and uncorrupted German blood. He admires
the aristocracy. Concurrently he has never ceased
expressing his contempt of the lower classes and his
aversion to admixtures of the blood of other races, of
Jewish blood especially;
_and yet_ -
_Hitler's own Origins are Not Noble Or Beyond
Reproach_. -- Hitler comes from _illiterate peasant
stock_ derived from a mixture of races, no pure German
among them. His father was _illegitimate_, was married
three times, and is said to have been conspicuous for
sexual promiscuity. Hitler's mother was a domestic
servant. It is said that Hitler's father's father was a Jew,
and it is certain that his _godfather was a Jew_; and that
one of his sisters managed a restaurant for Jewish
students in Vienna and another was, for a time, the
mistress of a Jew. Hitler's appearance, when he wore a
long beard during his outcast Vienna days, was said to be
very Jewish. Of these facts he is evidently ashamed.
Unlike Napoleon, he has rejected all his relations.
See also 153-4.
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Do you agree with this?:
someone who engages in heterosexual affairs or homosexual activity will probably prevaricate in connection with attempts to hide such actions.
Do you consider "lies" the press reports mentioned here?:
From
http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/donovan/hitler/
on 183:
Although the Press has led the German people to believe
periodically that Hitler had found the girl he was looking
for all these years, a good many close observers have
come to the conclusion that he is asexual.
On 204:
It is reported by Rauschning that Hitler has had overt
homosexual relations and in this connection has
mentioned three lovers; one, Forster (Gauleiter of
Danzig).
Are you writing a thesis on the subject?
5,4,3,2, . . . .
Can I get in before the ZOT?
Are you a homosexual?
In before the zot!! Me too!!
Don't forget to take your meds.
ZOTOLLA, Baby!
Uh, Hitler is not a particularly admired person at Free Republic. We all know he is a mass murderer. Is your point to equate homosexuals with mass murder?
Got proof.
That's a stretch.
You know what a zot is you moron.
And guess what, you just got one.
Every single troll is an ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC!
Hitler's sexual persuasion was certainly the least of his problems.
Wow. Was that supposed to convince me of something? Just FYI, it failed spectacularly.
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