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Dr. Rami Rodriguez -- another Terri Schiavo ?
Rami's Rangers ^ | may 18, 2005 | Rami's Rangers

Posted on 05/18/2005 8:44:48 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Rami (RAH-ME) is a retired American Veteran who served in the United States Army for many years, was an honored civic leader and has made his home in sunny California.

Rami is a married and successful businessman, and has recently been diagnosed with a syndrome called Aphasia, making it difficult for him to communicate effectively.

In October 2003, Rami approached his family for help, stating the physical, financial and mental abuse inflicted on him by his wife, Robin, of three years, that he was afraid of her and desperately wanted a divorce - she is 20 years his junior. Rami's family immediately took him to the emergency room where he was diagnosed with malnutrition, dehydration and Vitamin B12 deficiency. He remained hospitalized for approximately two weeks. It was learned that Robin had been giving Rami approximately 17 unnecessary drugs, which he stopped taking while living with family, and his health improved significantly. Robin filed for Conservatorship over Rami, and although Rami did not want a conservator, he asked his niece to act in that capacity. Rami's niece and family have helped Rami for over a year - Rami was independent and happy.

During the Conservatorship trial, Judge Joseph Kalin disallowed evidence to prove Rami's allegations against Robin, and instead found that Rami was delusional. Judge Kalin appointed Conservator Daniel Stubbs, who was suggested by Robin's attorneys. Judge Kalin also gave dementia powers to the conservator. Robin has and continues to use Rami's money to employ a large firm and control Rami and his assets. Rami's strong desire for independence and divorce have gone unheard.

On January 8, 2005, Conservator Stubbs removed Rami from his sister's home under false pretenses, and took him to his wife, the very person Rami wanted to be away from. Rami has been confined to his home, and despite attempts by family and friends to visit him, he is not permitted to receive visitors. Rami's attorney had to petition the court to see her client. She was allowed to visit him once after he was taken, where Rami advised her that Robin and Stubbs had him sign various unknown papers. Rami's attorney has since been removed by the court.

We believe Rami is living in silence and has no control of his life. He told both his attorney and a visiting detective that he doesn't want to be with Robin and that he's afraid of her and Stubbs. Because Rami has trouble communicating doesn't mean he doesn't feel, have desires or know what's happening to him . Rami can communicate using various methods, such as hand gestures, facial expressions, and sometimes he does form a complete sentence.

Join us in our mission to protect the health, well-being and personal interests of this great American.


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More about Rami Rogriguez from the above site:

Born May 7, 1942, Rami Rodriguez is nothing short of an American hero.

Rami served two tours in Vietnam in the United States Army and worked as a medic. He received a Purple Heart, Bronze Star, approximately 11 commendations and medals.

Following his remarkable military career, Rami became active in civics and local leadership. He has been honored by Presidents Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43.

Rami married his wife, Robin, in 2000 and has two children, Deborah and Rami, Jr. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rami's Situation

Rami was diagnosed with Aphasia, a condition that is brought on by brain lesions and that makes communication difficult. Aphasia causes language disturbance and impairs the individual's ability to speak, write or comprehend things clearly.

Friends and family who have known Rami throughout this ordeal report that he is cognizant, oriented and makes every attempt to communicate with them.

People with Aphasia can often benefit from therapies that include oral and lip reading education. It is not a cognizant disability. It is a language disability.

Rami had previously been trying to end his relationship with his wife, Robin. It is alleged that Robin had been treating Rami with medications for Diabetes, yet Torrance Memorial Hospital confirmed that he had no such condition. At the time he was examined, he had lost more than 20% of his overall body weight.

Medication was promptly halted and Rami's condition quickly improved. He moved in with his sister, Alice, and his demeanor, physical state and outlook all improved dramatically.

His wife's experts diagnosed him with dementia and Alzheimers. His own experts, including his personal internist for over 30 years simply diagnosed Aphasia, and that diagnosis stood until his conservator took him from his sister's home on January 8, 2005.

The Conservator

In October of 2003, Rami was placed into the Conservatorship program in the state of California. His Conservator (or guardian) is Daniel G. Stubbs and the presiding judge is Judge Aviva Bobb. Judge Bob dismissed Rami's attorney, Lisa Fisher, claiming she was too emotionally involved in his case.

Attorney Fisher was actively seeking to overturn a previous ruling appointing Stubbs as Rami's conservator. Her contention was that Stubbs was not properly executing his duties as conservator and was endangering Rami by doing so.

Since appointed, Stubbs has allegedly placed Rami on antipsychotic medication and has failed to protect Rami's property. By giving his wife total control of Rami's property, Stubbs had given her the opportunity she needed to attempt liquidating Rami's property.

The Convservator has refused to interview Rami's friends and blood relatives, his internist or his speech pathologist to determine what Rami wants for himself.

Rami Being Confined and Neglected

Rami has been isolated from all family and friends, and Stubbs has refused to allow him to go forward with a dissolution of marriage.

Rami has been allowed to see his attorney only once through this, at which time he cried and told her he wanted to live with his sister, Alice and appeal Stubb's appointment. Attorney Fisher filed a declaration to that effect. Rami said he was frightened of Robin and what she may do to him again and that Robin and Stubbs had him signing papers that he did not know what they were for.

Detective Curt Henderson, of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, was allowed to meet with Rami once. In a Declaration filed with the court, Henderson stated Rami told him he was afraid of Robin - he begged Henderson's help in leaving Robin.

On March 14, 2005, Judge Aviva Bob denied the request for Detective Henderson to speak.

Since Stubbs took Rami from Alice's home on January 8, 2005 he has not seen any family or friends and nobody knows what his medical condition is at this time.

What Can be Done?

Your help is needed now. Please check out what you can do to assist Rami's Rangers in protecting his life and well-being here.

1 posted on 05/18/2005 8:44:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: AnimalLover

PING -- I gave you credit for finding this information.


2 posted on 05/18/2005 8:45:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

They are also looking for legal advice.

They are in the Los Angeles area.

Fay Franklin
Volunteer Coordinator
info@ramisrangers.com
310-938-2982


3 posted on 05/18/2005 8:48:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Rami Rodriguez in 2004

4 posted on 05/18/2005 8:55:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
#1. You must get local media attention immediately. Many attorneys will dislike media attention, since they want to win in court, running up the legal bill. Get it into the court of public opinion, but get a PR pro.

#2. Call Gloria Alred now. She is a media junkie lawyer, but gets results. Gloria Allred, Allred, Maroko & Goldberg, 6300 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1500, Los Angeles, CA 90048 Phone (323)653-6530, Fax (323)653-1660

#3. Get good PR counsel NOW. Don't wait until the (sometimes) well-meaning media amateurs get involved. Get a pro now! Bill Chatfield was the best, but Pres. Bush chose him to be Director of Selective Service. Call Danny Frank in New York 212-279-1041 for the name of someone in LA.
5 posted on 05/18/2005 8:59:16 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: FairOpinion

P.S. Accept the fact that you are currently losing the battle. and losing badly. You must do something that you might consider drastic to win and save this man's life.

For inspiration, rent "The Untouchables." Watch it again. Watch the Sean Connery character and how he develops Costner.

Consider it a "training film."


6 posted on 05/18/2005 9:06:37 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: FairOpinion; AnimalLover; Ohioan from Florida; ExPatInFrance; TheSpottedOwl; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; ..
another interesting FORCED EXIT article


(Ohoian from Florida's pinglist already included here)
7 posted on 05/18/2005 9:29:30 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: FairOpinion

But a judge has already ruled on this. Since judges are incapable of error, for even their errors are law, and therefore right, we should just move along and pay no attention to the slow murder of another useless eater./extreme sarc

Didn't the 'WPPFF' tell us that this wouldn't happen? That the government should stay out of 'family' issues? Maybe they can explain how the judiciary is not part of the government. And maybe they can explain why Rami improves when unneccessary medicines are removed.

The whole thing sickens. This isn't what we fought for. Not by any stretch.


9 posted on 05/18/2005 9:40:18 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: FairOpinion; Future Useless Eater
Rami had previously been trying to end his relationship with his wife, Robin. It is alleged that Robin had been treating Rami with medications for Diabetes, yet Torrance Memorial Hospital confirmed that he had no such condition. At the time he was examined, he had lost more than 20% of his overall body weight.

BTTT

10 posted on 05/18/2005 9:40:27 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

Is this another spouse trying to commit murder?

Unbelievable what is going on in this country!!


11 posted on 05/18/2005 9:51:05 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: All

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12 posted on 05/18/2005 9:55:04 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Future Useless Eater
The advice MB gave about getting good PR is sound advice. Some of his other suggestions are good also and would make a good beginning. Mr. Rodriguez needs a GOOD attorney and NOW. Gloria Allred might be able to help with that.

MB's advice has been delivered much more tactfully this time, and deserves consideration.

And thank you for the ping!

13 posted on 05/18/2005 9:58:49 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: Sun

Good job Sun!!!


14 posted on 05/18/2005 10:00:21 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: FairOpinion

How about contacting some Veterans Organizations and pinging some of the vets on FR?????


15 posted on 05/18/2005 10:01:37 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: TAdams8591

Thanx.

Great idea about contacting vet organizations.


16 posted on 05/18/2005 10:07:24 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Sun

Didn't you know, that spousal murder is legal?

Judge Greer and a bunch of FReepers said so.

After all, preventing someone from murdering their spouse is "government intervention" and that is bad, but murder is OK, as long as you don't murder strangers, only your spouse.

(sarcasm)


17 posted on 05/18/2005 10:08:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

LOL!


18 posted on 05/18/2005 10:11:30 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: FairOpinion

That's right. I keep forgetting that it is OK to kill family members, and other people should allow it, and just butt out, because killing family members if a private matter.


19 posted on 05/18/2005 10:26:43 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Sun

Are there any first hand sources to look at - court documents online... direct statements from Rami's attorney etc?


20 posted on 05/18/2005 10:50:01 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta (Paul from Atlanta)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

He is a veteran. Thought some might be interested, or even interested to help. He is in CA, in the LA area.


"Rami served two tours in Vietnam in the United States Army and worked as a medic. He received a Purple Heart, Bronze Star, approximately 11 commendations and medals.

Following his remarkable military career, Rami became active in civics and local leadership. He has been honored by Presidents Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43."


21 posted on 05/18/2005 10:57:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MindBender26

Wow!!

Sounds like good advice. Shall we all (Terri warriors) view it?


22 posted on 05/18/2005 10:57:09 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: Sun; Future Useless Eater

Terri wasn't the first attempt at spouse murder (read up
on Michael Martin) nor I fear, will she be the last.
I think, decades ago, truly no one outside the family was
involved or knew much, if anything about such cases, back
when opiates were OTC, etc. Nor, in instances where mere
fatigue on the part of caretakers was involved. But we
as a society did not officially condone those deaths. Now
we are, meaning us as the body politic, through the decrees
of judges and the inaction of the executive. G-d save us all.


23 posted on 05/18/2005 11:20:09 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: FairOpinion

PING -- I gave you credit for finding this information.



And again, it's me! I see what you did - set up another
thread - terrific. It's really not important that I
get credit on anything I put into FR the main thing that
information gets out there.

Do you work with Jim Robinson?


24 posted on 05/19/2005 12:08:54 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Sun

Another spouse trying to commit murder in my opinion.
Fay Franklin


25 posted on 05/19/2005 12:22:37 AM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: TAdams8591

Rami cannot contract - he llost the right when the judge granted "dementia powers" meaning he is incapable and not allowed to hire an attorney.


26 posted on 05/19/2005 12:29:25 AM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: MindBender26

MindBender - yu are right now, as you were before about Terri. I contacted professional PR people - $30 - $60,000 for 6 months, which his family cannot afford. His estate can afford it tho. Ideas? Even if he were free of Robin this minute, he does not have the right to contract or spend any of his hard earned $. At Christmas time he sobbed because Mr. Stubbs did not give him eating $ much less any $ to buy gifts for family and friends. Rami loves giving gifts!Fay Franklin


27 posted on 05/19/2005 12:34:08 AM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: paul_fromatlanta

Look at the site. You will see all the motions - excessive litigation by the wife's lawfirm, Holland & Knight, and the conservator. We will get actual docs up shortly - boxes and boxes, so we will have to pick and choose.
Fay Franklin


28 posted on 05/19/2005 12:36:46 AM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: FairOpinion
This is in the state where they are represented by the Culture of Death Senators -- Feinstein and Boxer. Also, the Terminator, as Governor, is also part of that culture of death.

If they kill itty bitty babies, why not Vietnam Vets with medals?

29 posted on 05/19/2005 1:07:09 AM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: Salvation; cpforlife.org; Coleus; NYer; Goodgirlinred

Ping - don't know about another Terri Schiavo -- but wife had him on 17 drugs he did not need to be on...


30 posted on 05/19/2005 1:21:55 AM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: Former Military Chick; Marine_Uncle; Grampa Dave

Ping -- Vietnam Vet in trouble ping


31 posted on 05/19/2005 1:23:46 AM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: yesnettv

Allred as a starting point.

Any state agency that deals with elder abuse.

Get older Marines to picket her house, under supervision.

Good luck.


32 posted on 05/19/2005 2:48:27 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Sun

Thank you for the contact info!!


33 posted on 05/19/2005 3:17:50 AM PDT by Awestruck (Here we go again!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Someone needs to write a manual with a title such as
How to Save an Unwilling Victim: Steps to Fighting Judicially Induced Death.
34 posted on 05/19/2005 4:30:58 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: yesnettv

I was thinking perhaps his family could hire one?


35 posted on 05/19/2005 5:18:59 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: TAdams8591

What about the SwiftBoat Vets organization? If they got involved, the plight of this Vet would be big news.

Grandma in Michigan


36 posted on 05/19/2005 5:28:53 AM PDT by gramcam
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To: gramcam
THAT is a GOOD idea. I wonder if they would get involved?

This veteran certainly deserves it!

37 posted on 05/19/2005 5:41:57 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Do you know any Veterans who might be willing to help?


38 posted on 05/19/2005 5:52:21 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: WVNan

PING!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 05/19/2005 6:01:17 AM PDT by Just Kimberly (Always proud, Always American, Always Trust in God...HOOAH!!( and Terri - we will never forget.))
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To: FairOpinion

The bottom line in all of these "Schiavo-like" tragedies is this: Beware of who one marries, for a bad choice could kill you prematurely!!!!! I don't think the American people can understand though: they will continue to make the same mistakes.


40 posted on 05/19/2005 6:14:08 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

Yea, kinda makes you look at trophy wives in a more nefarious light, doesn't it?


41 posted on 05/19/2005 6:37:29 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thank you for the ping. I can hardly believe what I am reading. Thank God this man has friends and family who care for him and seem to be taking action. I will pray for all involved.

God Bless and have a great day!


42 posted on 05/19/2005 6:54:56 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: TAdams8591; MarMema

good ping, TA. 68-69Tonkin' surely knows someone who'd be interested in helping!

I'm in for any graphic design needed. Will work on a ribbon and postcard ASAP.


43 posted on 05/19/2005 7:02:32 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Right now it's "Don't get old in Florida." Soon it'll just be "Don't get old.")
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To: FairOpinion

bttt


44 posted on 05/19/2005 7:03:07 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: kimmie7

Cancel that. I just looked at the site, it looks great. I'll kick in with some research soon.....


45 posted on 05/19/2005 7:05:13 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Right now it's "Don't get old in Florida." Soon it'll just be "Don't get old.")
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To: Sun
Don't forget to contact your talk radio people. They really went to bat for Terri.

someone might want to try and get this story to G.Gordon Liddy. He might be all over this since the victim is x military.
46 posted on 05/19/2005 7:09:34 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: Sun

Doesn't look good, does it?


47 posted on 05/19/2005 7:12:01 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: FairOpinion; All
Sounds like another killer judge to me.

His best chance at survival is to be physically removed from this judge's jurisdiction.

Maybe someone could pull some strings and get him admitted to a VA hospital to get him away from the wife temporarily. The fact that he is a disabled veteran should be used to his advantage.

Does being a combat veteran give him the right to special legal council or special medical care?

It would also be a good idea to contact all the veterans groups and let them know that this is happening. They could bring some serious pressure down on the wife, and maybe pull some political strings.
48 posted on 05/19/2005 7:21:42 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: FairOpinion
Unbelievable this is happening again. People need to wake up. Here are a couple of links.

SAFE STATE

ELDER ABUSE UNIT LAPD

I think protective agencies have more teeth than they do in Florida, or I hope so anyway. Prayers are being said for Rami also.

49 posted on 05/19/2005 7:28:01 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( "Where there's life, there's hope"-Terri Schindler's message to the world-Never forget)
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To: FairOpinion
As a Nam Vet, count me in.

Keep me posted, ping me, whatever.

Has anyone started a Defense Fund?

If so, let me know where to send a check.

We "Brothers" will NEVER forsake another, in a time of need.

50 posted on 05/19/2005 8:01:19 AM PDT by An American Patriot ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME"-- the opportunity to get the Hell out of here! Bye Bye VT- Hello, VA)
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