Posted on 03/11/2005 2:08:31 PM PST by churchillbuff
Keyes is kind of like our Ward Churchill.
Repeating those facts will win converts. Lectures on the Federalist Papers will put people to sleep. (And besides, I don't necessarily agree that the other branches should be allowed to disobey court orders; we'd have chaos if there was no final interpreter of the laws --- -- in this case, what we need is the legislature to CHANGE the law and ORDER judges like Greer to go by a higher evidentiary standard when determining the "end of life" wishes of a disabled person.
starvation is a horrible way to die.....this isnt 'cruel and unusual' ? this judge is evil. no other way to see it.
Keyes is advocating legal anarchy.
Before you start your lies again on THIS thread, you keep asking why Rush hasn't talked about this matter.
And yet, two posters at least told you yesterday that Rush HAS discussed this matter; right here:
"Both Rush and Hannity have discussed this recently (i.e. in the last week). I just wish they would have done more.
It's still not too late however. I guess what angers me the most is the coward that is sitting in the Governor's office.
He has every legal right and responsibility to keep this woman from being murdered by the court by stepping in and removing her from her husband's care and putting her into state care. Even at the risk of his political career this has to be done.
That is the difference between a Lion and a Lamb. Unfortunately, Jeb Bush is no lion, so Terri will be fed to the wolves. "
192 posted on 03/10/2005 7:49:12 PM EST by Leatherneck_MT (A Patriot must
I don't disagree. Please see my post # 3.
Huh? I think Keyes needs a refresher course.
Yes, I wish Keyes would stick to the scandalous facts of this case. He can give lectures on his interpretation of separation of powers any time -- but he only loses potential converts (to Terri's cause) by harping on his eccentric ideas about the relationship of courts to the executive. ON THE OTHER HAND, AT LEAST HE'S VOCALLY SUPPORTING TERRI - - HOWEVER FLAWED HIS PRESENTATION IS;; SOME OF OUR OTHER CONSERVATIVE SPOKESMEN AREN'T SPEAKING UP VERY MUCH, OR AT ALL.
How much are you paid as an opinion shaper? In all my years here I've never seen you post anything that doesn't bash conservatives somehow.
And it's a lie that conservatives aren't speaking up about this matter. And those that aren't probably don't know about it or don't agree with your position. It doesn't make them less conservative.
Child of God...
We pray those judicial sinners...
Do not cause the hour of thy death...
Amen !!!
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So if a judge issues an opinion in direct opposition to the constitution, then we must obey and honor that opinion?
Judicial anarchy is just as dangerous.
Appeal it to another court. That's what appeals courts are for.
And while the appeal is on going, then what?
If a judge sentences someone to be put to death immediately that hasn't committed a crime, and refuses to issue a stay order for an appeal, should that judges sentence be carried out?
It the person is dead, what good is an appeal?
No.
Sometimes you must resist the court in order to preserve justice.
The average length of time from death penalty verdict to actual execution is over 15 years!
Try another example.
Were are talking about a judicial activist.
And I said 'IMMEDIATELY'.
15 years is for the APPEALS process, that my example stated would be DENIED!
And death sentences, at least in Texas, carry automatic appeals, meaning the sentence cannot be carried out until the appeals are exhausted.
In a life and death case, and one which will establish a precedent for starvation Euthansia based on hearsay evidence, such as this case, your logic is inescapable. To sit by and allow this corrupt judge to put her to death and in this heinous manner, simply because he is a judge and you are in the legislative or executive branch, would be very, very wrong.
An appeals court? They are not there to look at the facts of the case, but must rely on Greer's "facts" which are almost all lies. Plus, in FL, they are all in on it together in the judiciary. That is a sad, simple fact that will soon lead to the excruciating suffering and death of someone who is not even PVS.
We are talking about JUDICAL ACTIVISM!
Not the normal working of the courts.
My original statement was if a judge sentenced someone who is innocent to IMMEDIATE EXECUTION (in other words, NOT FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS OF OUR LAW) should that order be OBEYED or IGNORED?!
It was a SIMPLE question that didn't require a MIND BOGGLING interpretation...
Sheez!
He is talking about a case like Terri, who has committed no crime, yet is being put to death much much more quickly than a convicted murderer would, who would get 15 years and a Habeas Corpus appeal through the Federal court system. Terri does not have that. Jeb Bush's quickie turndown of his appeal for a hearing by the US Supremes does not count on Terri'e behalf for a Federal review of her case. A bill to allow her that Habeas Corpus review, and all such who are in her exact same position, has been introduced in Congress by Dave Weldon in the House and Mel Martinez in the Senate. And in such an appeal, Terri would have her own attorney, by law, which has been denied her all along by Greer.
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