Posted on 09/19/2004 8:38:35 PM PDT by grace522
IF YOU ARE A KERRY FAN PLEASE READ THIS... YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT, AND YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT, BUT YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORDS.. I know there's a lot of these going around, but this one is verrrrry interesting.... > [Original Message] Subject: Kerry's Military Record? Oh What a Tangled Web He Weaves...
Now that the Kerry team has again raised the issue of President Bush service in the Texas Air National Guard they should be held to answer the question below outlined by Mr. Steve Nash, US Navy, Retired. If Kerry would release all of his Military records, this issue could be put to bed.
"Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director
Authentin SEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where all investigators are US Navy Seals" http://www.authentiseal.org
Military Record
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it'because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended!
This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct,and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was in the Oval Office; Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th. ================================================================
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year,and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country,especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his not more than 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." ...........................................end..............
I wondered about this myself.
Where are Kerry's original discharge papers?
Getting a discharge in 2001 is awfully odd.
This one smells a little funny. I'd suggest more investigation as to whether or not this is legit...
My understanding is that Bill Clinton intervened to help with his 2001 up graded discharge. These stories have surfaced before.
We won't know, unless Kerry releases his full records.
<< On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy .. >>
Nope.
He di no such thing.
Kerry's hitch was with the Naval Reserve.
The Navy's version of the [EG] Texas Air National Guard the Kerrorist Gang so disdains.
Hey AP....How about a FOIA Lawsuit for this like you did for Bush!
Could Clinton have pushed this through with the million "get out of jail free" papers he signed in the last few days????? He would have been CIC...
BTTT Wow. Wonder if the Swifties know the real answer to this? What you posted seems plausible.
Drudge reporting the NYTimes (or Slimes) tomorrow has another several-thousand word story on Bush's national guard service. Said that the public is getting tired of this but Rather and the Times keep on with the story.
I'm sure 60 Minutes / CBS will be just as quick to air an expose of Kerry as they were to air one about Bush.
Shall we send this information over to them so they'll get the word out? Or shall we wait for hell to freeze over?
The Reserve is part of the US Navy and his unit was activated....to his dismay.
I think there was already a post on this and someone explained the 2001 discharge. There is nothing there. If he had been court martialed you would know about it. You can't get a less the Honorable Discharge without due process and there is no evidence of a court martial.
When you sign up, you are a commisioned officer regardless of active duty or reserve status. You are still subject to the provisions of the USMJ. I don't know how it was in the Navy, but in the Army during the 60's and 70's, most officers on active duty were reservest who had graduated from ROTC or OCS.
I wouldn't bet the bank on this, but it does chime with some other reports.
Kerry must release ALL his military records for public viewing, not post selected extracts on his web site.
He has campaigned as a military hero who served in Vietnam, and has repeatedly attacked Bush for his National Guard service.
Where's the beef?
<< The Reserve is part of the US Navy .... >>
As the ANG is part of the Air Force.
Would they be public records?
This is apparently exactly what happened.
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