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It got its name the Authorized 1611 due to the authority it obtained in all the Christian churches. Except of course, the Orthodox and Catholic Churches, and since then, many other Protestant sects. But I guess by your logic, those groups are not Christians for not accepting the primacy of the KJV translation (as circular an argument as I've ever seen).

First, we are speaking of a Protestant Reformation Bible.

Second, yes, if the Roman and Orthodox churches do not use the Received texts they are not using the correct texts.

Nothing 'circular' about it at all.

Funny, how NIV and NASB users do not seem to love their bibles like the King James believers do theirs? There's a difference between loving our Bibles and fixating and obsessing, and in a way, worshipping our Bibles. And besides, it truly seems that you love "your" Bible, and not what's actually in it. Just the name of the KJV and it's style of prose, not what it says.

No, I do not find any NIV 'only' people, or NASB 'only' people.

They just prefer that translation.

King James believers know that they are reading the very words of God, hence their love for the Book.

Most of us choose to love the words in the Bible, and even more importantly, the Trinitarian God behind it.

Well, good, then you need pure words, not corrupt ones like the ones from the corrupt Critical text of the Roman Catholic church, used in all the modern versions (except the NKJ which uses the correct NT text but not the correct Old Testament text)

Maybe its because we know our is pure (Psa.119:140) And ours isn't? You don't know how cultic you sound here, with your exclusive and elitist attitude.

No, it isn't.

I posted an article on the Greek text by the TBS, you should read and find out why the Received text is the pure text and the Critical text isn't.

As for the apostasy in the churches, do you know one major denomination that is not going apostate? (Rev.3) All of the Protestant sects started apostate. Every apostate move since then is irrelevant.

No, the Protestant churches returned to the Bible and got out of apostasy, the RCC.

The Catholic and Orthodox Churches remain true, even if individuals or organized groups within these sects have gone apostate (which is nothing new anyway, since ever since two individuals in these groups have disagreed, usually one of them has gone apostate). The Church of England long ago gave up their King James Bibles for the modern versions, hence the rise in apostasy! Logical fallacy. Just because event B happened after event A does not mean event A caused event B.

No, it doesn't, but if we look for a common element on apostasy, the first sign of it is when the church gives up its Bible for alternative authorities like Popes, Councils, Priests,Creeds, Scholars etc.

It got its name the Authorized 1611 due to the authority it obtained in all the Christian churches. Except of course, the Orthodox and Catholic Churches, and since then, many other Protestant sects. But I guess by your logic, those groups are not Christians for not accepting the primacy of the KJV translation (as circular an argument as I've ever seen).

>>>>>First, we are speaking of a Protestant Reformation Bible.

>>>>>Second, yes, if the Roman and Orthodox churches do not use the Received texts they are not using the correct texts.

>>>>>Nothing 'circular' about it at all.

Well, if you're saying that "all the Christian Churches" recognized its authority, and you admit that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches don't and never have, then the only way for your statement to be true is to say that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are not actually Christian. To me that is a bit circular, if you are in fact disqualifying as a Christian anyone who disagrees with your particular doctrine.

I guess what I'm really trying to get it is, do you feel that the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are not Christian? For that matter, anyone who doesn't hold to the KJV only doctrine?

No, it doesn't, but if we look for a common element on apostasy, the first sign of it is when the church gives up its Bible for alternative authorities like Popes, Councils, Priests,Creeds, Scholars etc.

Well, to bring up Popes, Councils, and Creeds (it was the Lutherans, Calvinists, and other Reformation-era Protestants who followed the priests and scholars) is just silly, since the Christian Church was following those for over a millennia, and nearly all Christian Churches still recognize at least some of the Councils and Creeds.

If you ask me, there are two common starting points when apostasy began. The first is the Reformation itself, for the rather broad reason that it gave approval to the idea that anyone who felt like it could start their own sect based on their own personal interpretation of Scripture. The second, is 1930 when the first Christian sect began endorsing artificial birth control. You can see that since then, the slide into moral equivalency has accelerated. To me, it's Christianity's need to "get with the times" that is hurting it.

First, we are speaking of a Protestant Reformation Bible.

OK, what do you mean by this? Are you saying the KJV is only necessary for Protestants? Speaks only to Protestants? Isn't the word of God universal?