RIGHT! Government is an off shoot, of civilized society. It is part of our civilized society. Liberatarians are opposed to government and are generally opposed to civilized society too. Libertarians would be very satisfied if mankind returned to the jungle mentality and survival of the fittest. Liberatraians lack the intellectual and emotional capacity to live in an organzied existence and an orderly society, where the rule of law limits their desire for chaotic behavior.
>>>...the increasing social breakdown which you see all around you...
I don't see the level of social breakdown you libertarians see. I happen to live in the blue area.
Government is not the source of civilized society. Indeed, the increasing social breakdown which you see all around you correlates exactly with the increase in government.
In each person's life internal authority takes precedence over external authority. That some people choose to sacrifice their own authority to external authority is always a net negative/loss to themselves and society.
Most people have had the external-authority hoax foisted on them. The individual is the highest authority. Not government, not peers, not parents, not the media, not academics, not religion. Real power that increases well being, happiness and prosperity is owned by creative businesspersons and the productive working class from scientists to laborers.
This forum is used by some people that want the power to initiate force, fraud and coercion against people (be the external authority) or seek to enlist government agents (external authority) to initiate force, fraud and threat of force against people on their behalf.