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Whatever that was, it wasn’t a ‘stunt’ (Jiffy Pachamama Removal Service)
In the Light of the Law ^ | Oct 22, 2019 | Edward Peters

Posted on 10/22/2019 1:32:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

A few days ago men removed some female figurines (centerpieces for several weird ceremonies in Rome the last few weeks) from a church and tossed them into the Tiber River. Vatican spokesman Paolo Ruffini dismissed the act as a “stunt”. Regardless of how one assess this act, however, I think it not accurate to describe it as a mere “stunt”.

A “stunt” is a gesture that calls attention to a problem but does not itself solve the problem. For example, chaining oneself to a lamppost could call attention to the plight of the unjustly imprisoned but does not itself free the imprisoned. Standing on the corner with one’s mouth duct-taped might call attention to the suffering of the voiceless but does not itself give them a voice. Such acts are stunts, good stunts or bad, but in the end, stunts. What the Tiber men did was different.

Removing these figures from a church and tossing them into the Tiber does not simply call attention to the problem of setting up such objects in a church it also removes the statues from the church and thus solves the problem of having them set up in a sacred place. Such an act, good act or bad, is more than a “stunt”, it is form of direct action against a problem.

The Vatican having ruled out the possibility that the nude statues might represent the Virgin Mary or ‘Our Lady of the Amazon’, it is disputed whether the figurines portray the Amazon pagan goddess Pachamama or (at least per a handful of Vaticanisti) merely some vague “life force”. It is not for me to opine on who or what the objects actually represent and if someone wants to argue that chanting to and bowing before figurines of naked women does not count as worshiping strange gods, well, who am I to say?

But a fuller assessment of the act of these two men does not rest solely on whether the figures are demonic or merely faddish. Canon 1210, addressing the dignity of Catholic holy places in general, states: “Only those things which serve the exercise or promotion of worship, piety, or religion are permitted in a sacred place; anything not consonant with the holiness of the place is forbidden…” And Canon 1220 § 1, addressing churches specifically, states: “All those responsible are to take care that in churches such cleanliness and beauty are preserved as befit a house of God and that whatever is inappropriate to the holiness of the place is excluded.”

Theses canons, in my view, do not simply preclude the placement of obviously demonic or pagan artifacts in our churches, but rather, require those in charge of sacred places to set up objects that are positively conducive to Christian prayer and worship. If, as the Congregation for Divine worship stated in 1987(*), the mere fact that that some music is admittedly beautiful does not justify its performance in churches, then all the more so should church authorities be on guard against setting up objects widely and reasonably seen as representing pagan deities in Catholic sacred spaces. I suggest (and more to the point, the Code of Canon Law understands in, say, Canon 214), that the faithful have the right to trust that what they see in Catholic sacred places is actually there in service to the sacred and is not simply a gesture toward some form of political correctness or the latest cause du jour, to say nothing of it possibly being simply evil. Ignoring concerns about the proper use of sacred space with a shrug and a ‘we don’t really know what it is’ is to ignore the positive duties that Church leadership owes to the faithful.

As a man of law I am also a man of order and, as a rule, I hold that removing objects from private property is not an act of good order. But then, neither is setting up idols (whether to demons or to secular causes) in Catholic churches an act of good order. Over time the disregard of law by those in charge eventually brings about disregard of law by those subject to it. And that in turn can result in acts that are much more than mere “stunts”.

* See Cong. for Divine Worship (Mayer), excerpt from let. “Qua in mentem quaedam normae quoad ‘Concerti nelle chiesa’ revocantur” (05 nov 1987), Communicationes 19 (1987) 179-181.


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To: Mrs. Don-o

Roman Catholicism is so far from the original faith of the first Ekklesia that it is now an other religion. But I can understand why Catholic Teachers must insist on conflation ...


201 posted on 10/24/2019 7:50:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

Is that display for the up coming Catholic holiday coming at the end of this month?


202 posted on 10/24/2019 7:59:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie

Yes, she parses expertly.


203 posted on 10/24/2019 8:01:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie
Where do you get the idea that Mary did not kiss her husband?

Pretty sure that's not in the Bible.

204 posted on 10/24/2019 9:51:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised.)
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To: Elsie

“ ...Oral tradition...

I see what you did there; Buster!”

.....

;-)


205 posted on 10/24/2019 9:59:04 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

Thanks for crawling out and proving me right.


206 posted on 10/24/2019 11:43:36 AM PDT by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo.)
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To: All

I moved this thread to the Smoky Backroom.


207 posted on 10/24/2019 11:44:20 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pretty sure that's not in the Bible.

That has never stopped Rome from claiming Mary NEVER had SEX.

208 posted on 10/24/2019 6:58:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Someone had to do it.

Is this a slow, Diss the pope week?


209 posted on 10/24/2019 6:59:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

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210 posted on 10/24/2019 7:39:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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