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Colbert asked Ta-Nehisi Coates if he has hope for America. Coates said no.
Vox ^ | October 3, 2017 | Constance Grady

Posted on 10/04/2017 12:32:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One of the recurring ideas of Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book, We Were Eight Years in Power, is that he hates being asked to offer white people hope of a better future in which America might become a post-racial utopia. But when Coates appeared on The Late Show Monday night, Stephen Colbert asked him to offer that hope — and appeared to be almost offended when Coates refused.

In his book, Coates writes that he hates being asked to talk about a future he doesn’t believe in, and he simply does not believe that America is going to “get over” racism. As he sees it, white supremacy is so foundational to America that it will be impossible to ever eradicate it. “Our story,” he concludes at the end of Eight Years in Power, “is a tragedy,” but it’s one that Coates has dedicated himself to resisting nonetheless.

There are also troubling racial dynamics to this question. Coates is one of the most important writers on race in America today, but that also makes him one of the only writers on race whose work many white Americans have read — and correspondingly, for many white readers, there’s a sense that by reading Coates, you are absolving yourself of complicity in America’s racism. As the Washington Post put it in 2015, “‘Did you read the latest Ta-Nehisi Coates piece?’ is shorthand for ‘Have you absorbed and shared the latest and best and correct thinking on racism, white privilege, institutional violence and structural inequality?’ If you don’t have the time or inclination or experience to figure it out yourself, you outsource it to Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

White people seem to have decided that it is Ta-Nehisi Coates’s job to teach us all there is to know about racism in America. And once he’s finished, we would also like for him to make us feel better, to absolve us of our guilt and tell us that things will get better. Which is a lot to put on a single person, however brilliant — to say nothing of the fact that, as Coates pointed out on The Late Show on Monday night, it’s not actually his job.

“You’ve had a hard time in some interviews expressing a sense of hope in this country,” Colbert said toward the end of the interview. “Do you have any hope tonight for the people out there, about how we could be a better country, we could have better race relations, we could have better politics?”

“No,” Coates said, to scattered laughter. “But I’m not the person you should go to for that. You should go to your pastor. Your pastor provides you hope. Your friends provide you hope.”

“I’m not asking you to make sh*t up,” Colbert interjected. “I’m asking if you personally see any evidence for change in America.”

“But I would have to make sh*t up to actually answer that question in a satisfying way,” Coates explained.

What about the coming demographic change to America, Colbert asked. White people will soon be a numerical minority in America: Won’t things change then?

“Your question presumes that there is a static definition of whiteness,” Coates said. “And that this is the first time that there’s been a demographic change.” The Irish, he argues, weren’t always considered white; neither were the Italians or the Jews. America, by implication, is perfectly happy to change the definition of whiteness if it means the country can remain a majority-white nation.

“In addition to the very definition of whiteness being malleable,” Coates added, “the ability to vote is also a malleable thing. So you might have the possibility of the demographics actually changing, but who has the ability to use those demographics in an electoral system might also change too.”

Colbert took a second to sigh, in frustration or in sadness. “I hope you’re wrong,” he said.


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KEYWORDS: blacks; racism; television; whites
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To: Heart of Georgia

I have had similar conversations.

Everything is about race. Everything.

They are often shocked when I say we really don’t talk about it. One tried to tell me it was racist NOT to talk about it.

At some point, you need to move beyond it. The African immigrants honestly HATE to talk about race. They don’t care.


61 posted on 10/04/2017 5:26:44 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: kearnyirish2

“welfare reform has stabilized their birthrate”

And abortion.


62 posted on 10/04/2017 5:31:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: All

Um, Democrats and black people don’t WANT to get over racism....there’s too much power and money involved when you are able to keep people WILLINGLY enslaved.


63 posted on 10/04/2017 5:35:57 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: miss marmelstein

Hahaha....and the Left said gay people weren’t represented on Television!
I know this, that guy was a HOOT!


64 posted on 10/04/2017 5:37:09 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m always amused from being lectured by an intellectually blind racist that I’m a racist. It’s like watching the clown car at the circus.


65 posted on 10/04/2017 6:06:00 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if “white” is malleable, then so too must “black” be. And I know a number of “black” Caucasians using that kind of ignorant logic. Maybe things would get better for the oppressed demographic, black or white, if they would get educated, get employed, and get married.


66 posted on 10/04/2017 8:44:46 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: Jim Noble

THROUGH abortion


67 posted on 10/05/2017 4:02:37 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Fhios

Also know as the Chase, Erase, and Replace Agenda.


68 posted on 10/05/2017 3:57:28 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Coates wants eternal reparations for racism. Alinsky taught community organizers to rub raw perceived injustices. That is what Coates i.s doing
69 posted on 10/08/2017 5:56:53 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Coates attitude is widespread. Unless complete control is offered on a silver platter, he won’t be satisfied. I for one, don’t need his absolution. I’d love to see him grow up though.


70 posted on 10/18/2017 12:25:06 PM PDT by Crucial
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