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Inside the World’s First All-Female Special Forces Unit: Norway’s Jegertroppen
NBC News ^ | April 17 2017 | CARLO ANGERER

Posted on 04/17/2017 10:27:32 AM PDT by AnalogReigns

ELVERUM, Norway — An explosion just a few feet away rocks the unmarked station wagon as it travels along a dirt road in the Norwegian woodland. Immediately, two soldiers jump from their front seats and run for cover behind the carcass of an old, rusty tank. Firing their weapons at targets along the snowcovered hillside, they call for support from the rest of their unit. This firefight is just a drill, but the soldiers taking part are battling to break down one of the final barriers to women serving in the armed forces. They are training to become part of Norway's Jegertroppen or "Hunter Troops" — the world's first all-female military special forces unit. More than a year after the U.S. Department of Defense repealed a longtime ban on women serving in ground combat assignments, relatively few have been trained or assigned to these jobs in the U.S. military. Norway has moved a lot faster to break down military gender barriers. Its parliament introduced legislation in the 1980s that opened up all military roles to women. Last year, Norway became the first NATO country to introduce female conscription. PHOTOS: World's First Female Special Forces Unit But the introduction of the all-female special forces unit in 2014 raised the profile of women in the Norwegian military the most.

The unit was started after Norway's Armed Forces' Special Command saw an increased need for female special operations soldiers — particularly in places like Afghanistan where male troops were forbidden from communicating with women. The exclusion of half the population was having a detrimental impact on intelligence gathering and building community relations.

"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched." So they created the all-female unit specifically designed to train them.

"One of the advantages that we see with an all-female unit is that we can have a tailored program and a tailored selection for the female operators," Kristofferson said, adding that at the end of the one-year program the female soldiers are just as capable as their male counterparts. One of the unit's members, 22-yearold Tonje, said the unit is proof that women can do the same job as men, even in the male-dominated world of the military. "We're carrying the same weight in the backpack as the boys," said Tonje, who did not provide her full name due to the unit's rules. "We do the same tasks." Those tasks at Terningmoen Camp, about 100 miles north of Oslo, include parachuting out of military aircraft, skiing in the Arctic tundra, navigating the wilderness and fighting in urban terrain. She added that the weapon, backpack and other gear she carries on long marches, weighs over 100 pounds. "I'm the smallest, so I carry as much weight as I myself weigh," she said.

To qualify for the Jegertroppen, applicants have to run about four miles carrying 60 pounds of military gear in under 52 minutes. That's just three minutes less than their male counterparts who have to do the same thing in under 49 minutes. Tonje, who grew up in a town of about 30,000, said she has been interested military service since she was a child. "And I knew that I wanted to do the toughest thing I could do in the military," she said. "When the Jegertroppen came up as an option, it felt like it was made for me." Three years into the all-female program, the Norwegian military is already counting it as a success. "We have them available when we need the female soldiers in operations abroad," Kristofferson said.

During a break from the training drills, while the unit relaxed around a campfire, 20-year-old Mari explained that she joined the military to follow in her grandfather's and father's footsteps. "If I'm needed, I think that it would be a great opportunity to both serve my country and also to be able to contribute positively in a very masculine environment," she said. "With the skills that we get this year, I think that we definitely can continue to build on them and become very good soldiers, maybe just as good as the boys." Commanders say the all-female unit is already on its way. At a recent exercise, one of the female soldiers shot better than some of the men in the elite platoon, Capt. Ole Vidar, the officer leading the training program, said. He added that the female unit has also shown a stronger sense of solidarity among its members. "The boys see that the girls help each other, so the boys are doing better on that as well," said Vidar. He added that despite some skepticism at first, the program has been an instant success with over 300 applicants in the first year alone. And the entry requirements have already been raised. "Girls come better prepared than before," said Vidar.


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KEYWORDS: combat; female; feminism; norway
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"one of the female soldiers shot better than some of the men in the elite platoon..." Wow....big deal.

This seems madness to me. Why train a group of people who will ALWAYS be 2nd best to an equivalently trained group of men?

1 posted on 04/17/2017 10:27:32 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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the sound you hear in the background is a pinup calendar being planned.


2 posted on 04/17/2017 10:28:40 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: AnalogReigns

Euroweenies wont fight. EF em...


3 posted on 04/17/2017 10:30:12 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: AnalogReigns

Anything the left wing elite love for the military is a disaster on the battlefield. Obama’s horrible experiments nearly destroyed war fighting skills. I am still waiting on Trump to correct them. An all female “special forces” unit will be a R & R unit for the enemy when they are captured.


4 posted on 04/17/2017 10:30:52 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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because liberals think war should one big tupperware party


5 posted on 04/17/2017 10:31:38 AM PDT by Bob434
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But do they have a bikini team??

6 posted on 04/17/2017 10:32:02 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: AnalogReigns

But will Honor Blackman lead them?!

This thread is useless without pictures...


7 posted on 04/17/2017 10:32:15 AM PDT by Regulator
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“We’re carrying the same weight in the backpack as the boys,” said Tonje, who did not provide her full name due to the unit’s rules. “We do the same tasks.”

Don’t kid yourself, honey. If there’s any fighting, you won’t be doing the “same tasks” and you won’t be carrying the “same weight”.


8 posted on 04/17/2017 10:32:55 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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at the end of the one-year program the female soldiers are just as capable as their male counterparts.

Well, that's excellent! I can see that maintaining a common standard will work.

applicants have to run about four miles carrying 60 pounds of military gear in under 52 minutes. That's just three minutes less than their male counterparts who have to do the same thing in under 49 minutes.

A common standard in every respect except for the fact that it's different, that is...

9 posted on 04/17/2017 10:33:13 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Certainly nothing wrong with training women to fight/defend themselves and their country, but use them for special ops is a bit too far, IMHO, They will be put in harms way more often,and may be pitted against men that have similar training.


10 posted on 04/17/2017 10:33:22 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Uncle Sam 911
Things that "sound good" to liberals in peacetime are going to look insane to an enemy in wartime:

11 posted on 04/17/2017 10:34:27 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: AnalogReigns

Upon reading the whole article, I can see why they’re developing this unit...to deal with civilian women in Afghanistan and other Muslim places where men aren’t permitted to speak to women not their relatives.

It makes sense to me too, if you’re going to have women in combat—have them in the same sex-segregated unit, together too...to reduce fraternization issues.


12 posted on 04/17/2017 10:35:41 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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Frankly though, I think it is just plain immoral—not to mention irrational....to have women in combat at all. Period.


13 posted on 04/17/2017 10:37:39 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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Ended up running a marathon following Norwegian special forces...Didn't mean to...

14 posted on 04/17/2017 10:38:57 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Good idea. Put all the women in one unit. Then never deploy it.


15 posted on 04/17/2017 10:40:01 AM PDT by Seruzawa (I keel you V1orga feelthy.)
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To: AnalogReigns

My favorite female special forces belong to the Kildar, John Ringo, and are from the valley of the Keldara.


16 posted on 04/17/2017 10:40:32 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: AnalogReigns

Can’t they just take a team of male volunteers and “reassign” them as “women”? I mean, what are the criteria anymore?


17 posted on 04/17/2017 10:41:16 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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You raise a good point. This is progressive Norway, afterall, so how long before this unit is opened to dudes who “identify” as women?>


18 posted on 04/17/2017 10:44:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: AnalogReigns

Countdown before the first trans-woman demands to be allowed in. “Why wasn’t my application accepted? Why?”


19 posted on 04/17/2017 10:44:38 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: AnalogReigns

Fab Force Five


20 posted on 04/17/2017 10:44:43 AM PDT by Eddie01 (Is this the old loft with the paint pealng off it?)
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