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Questions Raised Over Poroshenko's Role In Valuable Kyiv Land Deal
Radio Free Europe ^ | 6/8/2015 | Maksym Savchuk and Daisy Sindelar

Posted on 06/08/2015 7:40:35 AM PDT by mac_truck

KYIV -- An investigation by RFE/RL shows that Ukrainian leader Petro Poroshenko may have used his presidential influence to shut down investigations into damage of a protected historic site caused by unauthorized construction on his private property in central Kyiv.

Two reports broadcast on RFE/RL's Ukrainian-language television program, Schemes, reveal that over the course of seven years, Poroshenko quietly purchased a plot of protected land in Kyiv's elite Pechera district and recently quashed an inquiry into the damage of an 18th-century structure caused by construction work on his plot.

The revelations come as Poroshenko, soon to mark his first year in office, faces growing criticism for failing to divest his billion-dollar business holdings and diminish the political influence of Ukrainian oligarchs like Dmytro Firtash, who last week claimed he personally orchestrated Poroshenko's rise to the presidency.

Supporters of Poroshenko -- still one of Ukraine's richest men, with an estimated fortune of $750 million -- defend him as a "president of de-oligarchization." But his failure to honor his campaign pledge to divest himself of his assets, as well as new findings about his property holdings, may add to questions about his commitment to separating politics from property and money.

(Excerpt) Read more at rferl.org ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: agitprop; corruption; crimea; donetsk; poroshenko; russia; ukraine; vladtheimploder
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Same old, same old in Ukraine....
1 posted on 06/08/2015 7:40:35 AM PDT by mac_truck
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To: mac_truck

Same old, same old in Ukraine....


So tell me FRiend, how do you feel about Russia violating the ICBM treaty while threatening nuclear war. Same old, same old in Russia....


2 posted on 06/08/2015 8:04:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I heard Putin has a tiny penis.


3 posted on 06/08/2015 8:23:29 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Cruz2Victory!)
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To: mac_truck

The country is on the cliff of bankruptcy. A spate of politically motivated killings and mysterious suicides of former government officials has sown fear in the capital. Infighting has begun to splinter the pro-European majority coalition in Parliament. And a constant threat of war lingers along the Russian border.

A year after the election of Petro O. Poroshenko as president to replace the ousted Viktor F. Yanukovych, and six months after the swearing in of a new legislature, Ukraine remains deeply mired in political and economic chaos

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/world/europe/in-ukraine-corruption-concerns-linger-a-year-after-a-revolution.html

I’m shocked to hear this.


4 posted on 06/08/2015 8:28:24 AM PDT by McGruff (Never Forget)
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To: Cruz2Victory

The scale of the corruption is much worse in Russia. Putin alone is worth $40 billion in wealth stolen from the Russian people.

But our local Putinists are only here to disparage Ukraine, apparently. The goal is to create “Ukraine fatigue” while ignoring the elephant in the room: one party fascist state Russia invading their neighbors and murdering thousands.


5 posted on 06/08/2015 9:11:52 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: McGruff

I’m shocked to hear this.


You’re shocked invasion and mass murder is bad for an economy? Really FRiend, you should get out more.


6 posted on 06/08/2015 9:12:52 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
how do you feel about Russia violating the ICBM treaty while threatening nuclear war.

I'd say its sad to see how easily the United States throws away a twenty plus year strategic relationship with a reliable partner against Islamic extremism over support for what amounts to just another corrupt failed state run by an amoral oligarch.

How do you feel about the United States unilateral withdrawal from the ABM treaty in 2001 which set the precedent?

7 posted on 06/08/2015 9:33:11 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

“Same old, same old in Ukraine....”

Protest camp on the Maidan was attacked by “Unknown Assailants” (Carrying a Right Sector Flag) this weekend.

You’ll note how now that the Dissenters are in are in charge, no dissent is allowed. Hopey-Changey, and all that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPppdGHf3Fw

This isn’t the first time protestors on the Maidan have been attacked since the coup, far from it. Kiev KNOWS they can’t allow any protests like the ones that brought them to power to take hold, or they lose their grip on power and the corruption money.


8 posted on 06/08/2015 9:53:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: mac_truck

How do you feel about the United States unilateral withdrawal from the ABM treaty in 2001 which set the precedent?


Given the recent aggressive unconventional transnational warfare of Iran and Russia, withdrawing from the ABM treaty was a prescient move.

To suggest that United States govt should not be doing its utmost to protect us with a missile defense system from such behavior on a conservative website is quite anti-American, FRiend.

And to your other point, Russia is a reliable partner? A country that flies its military aircraft with transponders off through civilian air space is a “reliable partner”? A county that threatens nuclear war while invading its neighbors, murdering thousands and violently changing the borders of Europe for the first time since WW2 is a “reliable partner”?

Russia is a rogue regime and the farthest thing from reliable partner you can get. It simply is not in the interest of the US to allow Russia to dictate how we defend ourselves and our allies.


9 posted on 06/08/2015 10:07:55 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: tcrlaf

Right Sector has a Russia Today embed now? Interesting.

Posting links to Russia Today? You know that admin banned RT here after all the Kremlin propaganda you and others posted here during the Russian invasion of Crimea.

Should I report you for trying to sneak this bit of Kremlin psywar agitprop on to a conservative website?

You never did cop to all the RT lies you parroted during Crimea. You do seem right at home supporting fascist Russia. Birds of a feather...


10 posted on 06/08/2015 10:13:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Divert, twist, derail, but don’t address THE CONTENT...

Typical trolling.


11 posted on 06/08/2015 10:17:47 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Pointing out that you Putinists ignore corruption in Russia quite on topic.

You know perfectly well what the intention here is too create Ukraine fatigue.

If you were really concerned about corruption you would be posting about the far, far larger corruption in Russia. Putin has stolen $40 billion from the Russian people, Kirill is a billionare, etc., etc.

You never comment on that because you’re only here to disparage Ukraine. If that isn’t trolling, nothing is.


12 posted on 06/08/2015 10:25:33 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: tcrlaf

Divert, twist, derail, but don’t address THE CONTENT...


Content? You mean like the lies told about Crimea? That Russia Today told, you parroted and never retracted? Even after Putin gave out the medals and claimed credit for the Russian invasion of Crimea.

You tell these lies and run away whenever I confront you with the fact that Russia Today is banned here. Why are you sneaking in links on a banned website? If that isn’t trolling nothing is.


13 posted on 06/08/2015 10:31:54 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

What you call “Lies” has turned out be truth.
Over and over.


14 posted on 06/08/2015 10:37:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: lodi90

You still have not made ONE comment about the article.
all you have done is try to derail it.

That’s the very definition of TROLLING.


15 posted on 06/08/2015 10:38:43 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: lodi90; All
Lol...it's not "anti-American" to think the United States should have stayed in the ABM treaty or negotiated a new one...especially since those opposed to unilateral withdrawal from ABM at the time predicted future non-compliance from the Russians would be a result of that unprecedented move.

As to whether or not Russia has been a reliable partner against Islamic extremism one need look no further than 9/11/2001 when the Russians were the first to reach out to the United States and from there fully supported the introduction of US troops into central Asia. Likewise it was the Russians who warned the US about the Tsarnaev brothers a full year before the Boston bombing.

None of which changes the fact that the current leader of Ukraine is cut from the same corrupt cloth as every other leader there since the fall of the Soviet Union

16 posted on 06/08/2015 11:19:24 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: lodi90

RT is not banned. It just can’t be posted under “News.” I found that out when I tried to post some of its typical Russian BS.


17 posted on 06/08/2015 12:45:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck

Maybe the Russians felt sorry for training terrorists.


18 posted on 06/08/2015 12:47:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck

Lol...it’s not “anti-American” to think the United States should have stayed in the ABM treaty or negotiated a new one...especially since those opposed to unilateral withdrawal from ABM at the time predicted future non-compliance from the Russians would be a result of that unprecedented move.

As to whether or not Russia has been a reliable partner against Islamic extremism one need look no further than 9/11/2001 when the Russians were the first to reach out to the United States and from there fully supported the introduction of US troops into central Asia. Likewise it was the Russians who warned the US about the Tsarnaev brothers a full year before the Boston bombing.

None of which changes the fact that the current leader of Ukraine is cut from the same corrupt cloth as every other leader there since the fall of the Soviet Union


So Poroshenko is cut from the same cloth? And Putin? What cloth would he be cut from? KGB? Has Poro murdered a dissident in London in a nuclear attack? Putin? Has Poro flown his aircraft across the English channel with transponders off? Putin? I find it a bit odd your fixation with rather minor issues in Ukraine while being willfully silent to much larger problems with Russia.

Russia threatening nuclear war is not “non compliance”. That’s a North Korea style tantrum. Hardly worthy of a “reliable partner”.

Russia was an occasional “reliable partner” on Islamic terrorism as long as long as it suited their interests. When it no longer did, they no longer cooperate.

Nobody suggested Ukraine doesn’t have problems. However, your constant insinuation that front line states to Russian aggression like Ukraine are not worthy of support is not consistent with conservative values.

Regardless of the political situation in Ukraine, the fact is it is not in the interests of the United States to have Russia rampaging across Europe, killing thousands and threatening nuclear war.


19 posted on 06/08/2015 12:58:56 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: tcrlaf

That’s the very definition of TROLLING.


You get caught linking non related Russian agitprop propaganda from a banned Russian government website and then call someone else a troll? LMAO

Time to go back to Russkie troll school, FRiend.


20 posted on 06/08/2015 1:02:09 PM PDT by lodi90
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