Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Today, I had a conversation with an investigator from the Cold Case Posse in AZ. We talked and I expanded on several dossiers filled with evidence for over an hour. They asked for all of my relevant information on Obama, the Harry Bounel alias evidence, and the dossiers I completed on Stanley Ann Dunham, her parents, and Michelle Obama as well. They have it all. BTW they also say that it looks like my information cannot be disproved and will be useful.
I have proof, definitive proof that Stanley Ann Dunham was in WA state in "1961" as per the issuance of a SSN numident in her name with the SSN 535-40-8522. There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Great news...good to see the Posse still active.
Of course, the so called “conservative” media will refuse to report this....too busy with talking about Michelle’s booty and the MSNBC hyped squester. Sad we have so many PhonyCon Obama Supporters (I’m looking at you Hannity, Levin, Coulter, Malkin, et al) who continue to give Obama a pass on eligibility
“There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.”
Al Hendershot says he has confirmed Arpaio Posse interest in his Harry Bounel file and the links to Mooshell.
While Hendershot has been an able investigator of Barry’s SS# trail it appears that it is news to Hendershot that Barry’s mom was in WA in the fall of 1961. Being in HI in the fall of 1961 does NOT prove that SADO was not in HI earlier in the year, of course.
Bump
It might prove she wasn’t in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961??
It might prove she wasn’t in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961??
Do you have any information on the unwed Mother’s home in WA?
It may have been connected to the church they attended there...Unitarian?
I had read that they were on the Canadian border and used a Canadian hospital for deliveries for cost savings.
I have read nothing on this for a year or so.
Do you have any information on the unwed Mother’s home in WA?
It may have been connected to the church they attended there...Unitarian?
I had read that they were on the Canadian border and used a Canadian hospital for deliveries for cost savings.
I have read nothing on this for a year or so.
oops, sorry for double post. don’t think I did it.
Everyone knows she was in WA state in the fall of 1961, it’s part of her wiki biography.
This is a big so what.
That's what upsets me about your post. You slander some folks, like Levin and Malkin, for being “PhonyCon” Obama supporters. Levin and Malkin are both great spokespeople for conservative causes. They aren't “Obama Supporters” simply because they disagree with you on eligibility.
While Hendershot has been an able investigator of Barry’s SS# trail it appears that it is news to Hendershot that Barry’s mom was in WA in the fall of 1961. Being in HI in the fall of 1961 does NOT prove that SADO was not in HI earlier in the year, of course.
One thing to note: If SAD was in WA state the fall of ‘61...she would have had to been on the mainland for a while.
The airlines back them did not allow pregnant women 6 mos or more preg. to fly back then...especially an unaccompanied young pregnant women. Also, they were very strict on flying with relatively newborn children...and would have definitely raised alarm with an unaccompanied white women with a black/mixed race baby....even a liberal state like Hawaii would have prevented such travel
My mother experienced this when we had to go back overseas on an accompanied tour of Germany, and they tried to prevent my mom from traveling, as she was 6 mos along w my brother.
“Do you have any information on the unwed Mother’s home in WA?”
No. And I am not inclined to believe she and her family were portraying herself as unwed.
I accept the FOIA documentation as most likely genuine (it destroys Barry’s Dreams narrative). In those documents U of HI staff informed INS that BHO Sr. had impregnated and reportedly “married” a coed on the exact date claimed in the HI marriage record and divorce document, a coed who was living with her parents.
BHO Sr. was already suspected by INS and U of HI (and later Harvard) of being married and also that there was discussion of putting the child up for adoption with the Salvation Army likely due to SADO’s age and BHO Sr’s student status (and the baby’s race?).
Bottom line I don’t see a shameful hiding away in an unwed home, especially when the grandparents announce the birth in the newspaper (I am inclined to regard those announcements as genuine although they do not prove HI birth).
Other than it’s interesting, what difference will it make? No one will confront Obama about more egregious elements of his shady past than this.
That’s what upsets me about your post. You slander some folks, like Levin and Malkin, for being “PhonyCon” Obama supporters. Levin and Malkin are both great spokespeople for conservative causes. They aren’t “Obama Supporters” simply because they disagree with you on eligibility.
Had they taken Obama Eligibility seriously, and not wasted their time and media sphere on piddling issues (who sits on an NRLB is trivial compared to the constiutional eligiblity of the President, Mr Levin)....Obama definitely would not have won a second term, possibly not even finished his first.
And, Michelle Malkin actually attacked the Cold Case Posse in some of her articles....referrring to the Posse and Obama Eligibility people as “Truthers” and comparing them to 9/11 Truthers. And you call that “good for conservative causes”?
It is more than indifference...some of these people have attacked Obama Eligibility folks as bad as MSNBC has (esp Malkin and Coulter). Levin always brags about his “Landmark Legal Foundation got Clinton’s law license revoked in Arkansas”....hey a President who is not eligible is much more important than one who got busy with an intern
They spend more time talking about Michelle Obama’s butt than they do on her husbands eligibility
BTTT.
Bottom line I don’t see a shameful hiding away in an unwed home, especially when the grandparents announce the birth in the newspaper (I am inclined to regard those announcements as genuine although they do not prove HI birth).
A mixed race black/white baby in 1961 would something even the most liberal family would not want out in public. Even in liberal states back in the early ‘60s that was really frowned upon. Something that today would not be an issue....but 50 yrs ago would be
Is Obama’s eligibility so important that it’s worth tearing the country apart? You might think it’s worth it, but most people, even good conservatives, probably wouldn’t.
If it is a blatant breaking of the constitution, YES IT IS!!!
Some principles are worth suffering and even dying for, the TRUTH is one of those.
You make it sound like the country isn’t being torn apart now.
I think we'll find out more about President Obama after he's out of office, but the man's not going to be impeached. I think that's part of the reason why some conservatives aren't interested in pursuing “Truther” discussions. Pragmatically speaking, no one is going to remove a sitting president from office over the sort of “evidence” that's been presented so far or is likely to be found in the future.
As far as conservative pundits making fun of “Truthers,” some Truthers are nutjobs. Sorry. I've read some Obama eligibility theories that border on the absurd. I thought the Cold Case Posse did good work, but even they didn't say Obama’s documents were definite frauds. They only said the documents appeared fake. That's not conclusive evidence that Obama is ineligible.
So, you're willing to turn your back on the letter of the Constitution, just like that. Shameful.
Yes, this is that important, because if we relent on this one point, we'll have conceded ground to the Communists that may take a bloody revolution to recover.
And for your information, the country's already torn apart. The divide between left and right almost can't get any worse than it is right now.
I guess I agree, but girls still did go away in the early 60’s.
It might also explain her friend saying she did not even know how to care for him. Maybe she went to school directly from a home with lots of help while recovering.
Maybe they married and then her family discovered he was already married? They would not have considered it legal, I think.
Wonder if we will ever get to the truth?
“A mixed race black/white baby in 1961 would something even the most liberal family would not want out in public.”
I think you are underestimating what attitudes there were in “the most liberal families” in 1960. I was actually in one at the time! The Dunhams went to the “Little Red Church,” a Unitarian Universalist church (name says it all), and the Mercer Island HS was an island of Marxist third-world liberation and diversity-loving enthusiasts, it would seem.
Nixon?
The country will not be torn apart if Obama is proven ineligible in a court of law. We have very organized method of succession. Biden becomes the president and he will appoint a VP.
But I won’t hold my breath expecting this to happen. But I am also keeping an open mind.
You make it sound like it is. Seriously. People aren't dying in the streets over Obama’s eligibility, but they will if he's removed from office. Some people may want a civil war. I don't. We really, really need to peacefully resolve America's growing political and cultural divisions. Violence should (must!) be avoided until there is no other recourse.
Truthers are never going to see President Obama removed from office (over eligibility). There's no tool to do that. Courts can't remove a sitting president. Congress could, but it won't. That's reality. Sorry.
“You might think it’s worth it, but most people, even good conservatives, probably wouldn’t.”
Voiding everything he has signed his name to would be fantastic!!!
All the commissions he’s approved and the people he’s hired under them would be fired, including eliminating Homeland Security and Obamacare!!!!
Wow! OK.
Thanks for the pings!
Considering the damage he has done/is doing?... Yes, yes it is.
Nixon was finished when his own party turned on him.
There are many reasons to believe that Barry is at his final momentary early second-term peak in popularity and that he is about to swan-dive into extreme unpopularity due to his economy-crushing Marxist/crony-capitalist policies.
His thrashing around trying to put something up on the scoreboard smacks of desperation, IMO (gun grabbing? minimum wage increase?) and it is all small-ball so far.
Every day lots of sane people getting crushed by Obamacare are saying “If I get the chance to damage this creep I will do it” and that includes a lot of folks in his own party.
As long as they keep the White House by moving Biden in to be followed (they hope) by Hilarious, they have nothing to lose if an extremely unpopular Barry is exposed as a fraud.
Hey, a guy can hope, right?
Do you have the research on their home ownership?
Names, SS#’s and lots of irregularities? More than just the land added to the property.
Check out who is billed for the taxes! Who pays them?
I think I’m just being realistic. I read eligibility articles with interest. For example, I thought the Cold Case Posse made a compelling case. However, it’s not enough to impeach a sitting president.
We’re still finding out secrets from WWII and the Cold War. I think that would happen here even if President Obama turned out to be ineligible. I could be proven wrong, of course, but he’s already survived one term. I think that’s why conservative pundits don’t want to spend any more time on Truthers. I think they’d rather focus on problems they might be able to help change.
She could have easily traveled with her six week old infant and still attended school in the fall.
I also seriously doubt that an airline flying from Hawaii had any thoughts at all about mixed race baby from the state with the highest level of mixed races. That is a silly assertion.
Impeachment wouldn’t be necessarily since Obama has never been Constitutionally eligible to hold office. He would be considered nothing more than a de facto officer.
So does 0bama. Everyone does for that matter.
FWIW I said nothing about violence or wanting a CW. I said nothing about the eligibility issue. I could also site dozens of instances of violence in the streets that have occurred over that last four years but it would be a waste of time.
Biden was not elected in his own name, but as attached to “0”. There was early talk of his election falling right along with “0”. Interesting that the rules I read are before or after swearing in, in January. I think there were many opinions flying about early in the first election.
This is going to go on for a long time. The illegality of applying for student loans as a foreign student may be the biggest “catch 22” for him someday. Failure to register for the draft would add to those facts.
Why would he hide so much information and falsify so much, as well spend all the money to defend his position if all was OK?
I enjoy learning all the theories and hoping I live long enough to learn which are the truth! I expect no change during this term, but I can hope!
Conservatives haven’t relented on a slew of constitutional issues, but the people in power do what they want regardless. You act like this particular issue is the one worth fighting for. What about the commerce clause distortions, the taking of private property rights, Roe v. Wade, unreasonable searches, etc? Do you think the natural born citizen issue is more important than all the other constitutional distortions?
Let me put it this way. I believe there’s something shady in Obama’s past. He’s hiding something. I don’t know what it is, but I’m pretty sure there’s something there. Would I like to know more? Sure. I fully support those who want to investigate further. I just don’t think there’s anything we can realistically do to impeach him. That’s not turning my back on the constitution. It’s accepting reality.
A court can’t remove a sitting president. He can only be impeached.
I am slightly worried about all the people preparing for more violence. Will there be an outlet for all that effort?
Will a small event set it on motion?
Storms or other interruption of services might cool that steam.
Are you talking about the unions? The OWS people? The BATFE? The Drone Program? What "people preparing for more violence" are you talking about?
Court cases are just to get the information forced into the public domain. Aren’t they? I think I read that getting to discovery is their goal.
Maybe Trump needs to up his reward for odumbi’s records to 50 million.
No, those who are becoming armed, storing food, buying land and seeds. We even have women’s groups learning to home can foodstuffs again. Bunkers, Water purification and solar powered communications are constantly being discussed.
There is even planned a seminar on advanced first aid etc.
TV anchor: 'Race-baiters' behind black-mob claimsRavi Baichwal is not going to like this: Three-thousand people fought, looted, rioted, assaulted, cursed, threatened, hurled racial epithets and vandalized a Chicago neighborhood over the weekend.
Don't worry, I am told there is no violence in the streets.
Maybe Trump can offer enough for Hillary to tell what she knows.??
I can’t believe she did not have the facts.
TomasUSMC: “Maybe Trump needs to up his reward for odumbi’s records to 50 million.”
Oh, I think there’s something there. I just don’t know what it is, and it doesn’t necessarily have to be about Obama’s place of birth. Maybe he just didn’t think a blatantly Marxist past would help him get elected, or maybe he doesn’t really know who his father is. Who knows?
I don’t have a problem with Truthers per se. I only started posting on this thread because Levin and Malkin were being slandered. I think someone can be a good conservative without believing Obama is a Saudi-owned Manchurian Candidate or some of the other absurd conspiracy theories I’ve read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate
People have been doing that for decades. I don't see anyone needing "an outlet for all that effort." I suppose preparedness is a waste of time though since nothing bad is happening in this country.
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