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Dog owners keep most of $620,000 in damages
Frederick News Post ^ | September 19, 2012 | Danielle E. Gaines

Posted on 09/22/2012 1:14:01 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: CodeToad

Read the whole thread so you know what you’re mad about.


61 posted on 09/22/2012 3:04:25 PM PDT by donna (Chick-news: They report on what they love (Obama and movie stars and themselves).)
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To: donna; HANG THE EXPENSE

Disregarding the straw man thrown unceremoniously into the room, how many more dogs do you think *this* cop will ever shoot again?


62 posted on 09/22/2012 3:06:14 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

It used to be a highly respected position one got to after years of positive service. Today it’s ‘executor of the board’s will’/enforcer/lapdog.

At least in many cases we read about. And we come full circle to electing good people vs idiots yet again.


63 posted on 09/22/2012 3:07:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Salamander
That would be perfect..but the *unions* will never allow it.

The courts would also strike down as racist, any test which didn't have identical passing rates for white and black teachers.

64 posted on 09/22/2012 3:08:41 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: donna

Fire up the Diebold’s folks, it’s voting time again!

Anyone here thing my position is not conservative?

Donna, you really should stop. You can’t win this.


65 posted on 09/22/2012 3:08:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’ve just described the liberal mindset, in a nutshell.

Now consider the current ‘opposing view’ in light of that.

I’m sticking with you.


66 posted on 09/22/2012 3:09:19 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

I thought I was replying to another thread, about the teacher’s strike. Yes, the police unions would never allow the cop to be personally penalized, which is why police unions MUST be abolished.


68 posted on 09/22/2012 3:11:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Norm Lenhart

As is the prison staff hierarchy, it’s no longer what you know, it’s who you know and what connections you have.

My dad was a guard for 30+ years.
Many of my uncles, cousins, one boyfriend and the ex all worked there and what is done within those walls, regarding “promotion” and “power” is an abomination to skill and hard work.

It’s *all* about politics and ass kissing.

*Rarely* is the best man chosen over the more ‘politically useful’ one.


69 posted on 09/22/2012 3:17:00 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Politicalmom

I don’t know that this was so much about shooting the dog, but more about the behaviour of the deputies. It seems that they presented that gung ho, “we win you lose, loser” attitude that is slipping into too many departments via young aggressive attitude types.

Who in hell gave these keystone cops the right to invade a home after the family was gone? Was there a warrant? Doesn’t look like it. You don’t just go rummaging through a person’s house because you feel like it.

At first I did think the settlement was way out of line, but I now think it was to punish the department. And yes, that means the taxpayer pays. So Mr. and Mrs. taxpayer, send the buffoons you hired, off with a pink slip and a kick in the butt.

Until the taxpayer starts treating these mediocre, midlevel bureaucrats like PAID EMPLOYEES who serve at the taxpayer’s wishes, then this stuff will continue to happen.

I’d like to be at the next township meeting when the board members have to tell the residents that the blockheads in their cop shop just rampaged through the proverbial china shop and broke every piece of crystal in the place, and now this is what its going to cost. “Dear fellow residents, do we buy ANOTHER BOND that we can’t pay, or do we boost your income and property taxes to cover that nut?”


70 posted on 09/22/2012 3:18:50 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

You should spend a day at the local prison complex.

You haven’t seen ‘enforced equality’ and ‘quota hires’ until you’ve been there.

Wanna get rich quick?

Get hired as a guard just because you’re a woman, feel “threatened” by the inevitable ‘sexual harassment” dished out by the all-male inmate population and then sue the state and live out the rest of your life in “traumatized luxury”.

[or you can ‘stick it out’ and leapfrog promotions over more qualified men because you’re ~not~ a man and therefore deserve preferential treatment...*or* you’ll sue]


71 posted on 09/22/2012 3:22:57 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Tuanedge

Great...now I can’t get Alice Cooper’s “Prettiest Cop On The Block” out of my head....LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtUAIHxqX-E


72 posted on 09/22/2012 3:25:58 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Cops are held personally responsible for their illegal actions. They go to jail all the time for wrongly shooting people.

Any cop who shoots a threatening child w/o first considering alternatives would have a serious legal problem. Most pet dogs are nothing more than threatening children. I will agree that dogs obviously kept for security & intimidation are exceptions.

I totally diagree with your assertion that there would be far fewer police if they were held responsible for their illegal actions. What there would be is fewer “shoot first & ask questions later” police.

I do agree that if it is PD policy to shoot even slightly aggressive dogs, then the officer acted appropriately & is blameless. If so, the policy should be changed.

Would a policeman who owns dogs immediately shoot a dog on private property? I seriously doubt it. Most dog owners would go out of their way to avoid harming the dog. Was the reason for the police visit so important as to warrant killing the occupants or destroying private property?

There are 39% of households in the USA with at lease one dog, & 74M dogs owned by Americans. Police will encounter dogs in 4 of 10 households they approach. They have a responsibility to deal with pets in a humane & considerate manner unless the dog owner encourages violence. That might not be law, but it is the right thing to do.


73 posted on 09/22/2012 3:28:34 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Politicalmom
Good!

Cops should remember the old adage - be nice to people on your climb upwards because you will meet them again on your way down. Pensions and job prospects are going into the toilet when austerity hits. People are not going to be well-disposed toward public employee unions when it's crunch time.

74 posted on 09/22/2012 3:33:46 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Politicalmom
Hansel said the jury's verdict reflected the social value of pets as family members, even though the law was lagging behind.

I want to live in a state that has those common sense laws! This needs to be a trend, suing the crap out of the individual, the department and whomever is in charge and make it hurt until it stops.

Dogs protect us and give us more love and devotion than, well, than I've ever deserved and we must give as good as we get, so that maybe we will someday be worthy of the gift God has given us in these beautiful animals.

The judge and jury got this one right sticking it to the Nazis like that.

75 posted on 09/22/2012 3:49:15 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Mister Da

“I totally diagree with your assertion that there would be far fewer police if they were held responsible for their illegal actions. What there would be is fewer “shoot first & ask questions later” police.”

I fail to understand how placing the responsibility on the shoulder of the cops while absolving/ignoring or minimizing their superiors policies will result in anything but mass migration to another area of employment.

That is an easy way to get full dictator type policies at the top of the food chain IMO. When a cop does stuff like this, his superiors have to be accountable as well. Moreso because they are responsible for having such a cop under them. By policy or by dereliction of duty.

A good cop will get totally screwed.


76 posted on 09/22/2012 3:50:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Amen. It's like those whack jobs who torture and kill animals as kids and grow up to be monsters, only this isn't some psychopath kid, it's law enFORCEment.

If we allow cops to come onto our property, kill whatever because they can and then let them get away with it, why should anyone believe it would it stop with just killing our dogs?

Everyone should be held to the same standards, the same laws, but those with greater responsibility need to be held to a higher standard, not a lower one.

We have more than enough history to see where that goes. All aboard the cattle cars, everyone? Better idea: Stop it now!

Hoorah for the judge and jury and the Bill of Rights!

77 posted on 09/22/2012 4:00:15 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Politicalmom

The shooter should pay, not the taxpayers.


78 posted on 09/22/2012 4:00:26 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: dragnet2
This should be a wake up call to those creating, us VS them, militarized war like police policies.

Quite right. What they are creating leads somewhere we don't want to go.

If this verdict slows or stops their "progress", then we, the people, are getting a bargain.

79 posted on 09/22/2012 4:08:43 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Salamander
Excellent points, good common sense that's not all that common any more.

This verdict should help common sense made a comeback, insanity is way too expensive.

80 posted on 09/22/2012 4:13:17 PM PDT by GBA
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