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Trust me: You believe in gun control (Agitprop Alert)
The Ironton Tribune ^ | May 24, 2012 | Tina Dupuy, editor of Crooks and Liars

Posted on 05/24/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If you ask the typical hyper-political gun owner (and I have … at Thanksgiving dinner), why it’s important to own a gun, they’ll bark about the Constitution. Yes, the Second Amendment: “The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed!”

This of course is the slogan the National Rifle Association adopted in the 1970s. It was then that owning a gun became an absolute right endowed by God and the Constitution. A blessing passed down by our forefathers to obliterate game and protect our property.

The NRA was founded in 1870 and for its first hundred years it was for gun control and didn’t mention the Second Amendment as their cause.

Adam Winkler points out in his delicious book, “Gun Fight,” what we call the “wild west” had some of the strictest gun control laws we’ve seen as a nation. The shootout at the OK Corral took place, after all, because Wyatt Earp was trying to disarm the outlaw cowboys in accordance with a Tombstone ordinance.

The KKK was among other things, a gun-control organization. They were trying to keep guns out of the hands of newly freed slaves … but still gun control.

The part of the Second Amendment omitted from the NRA’s slogan is: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…”

Yes, well regulated —it’s in the Constitution!

Now, to some, guns are as sacred as Scripture.

If you ask, again, this typical hyper-political gun owner why they need to stockpile assault rifles, you will get an answer much like Pat Flynn’s, a recent candidate for a Senate seat in Nebraska.

“Really, we have our guns to protect ourselves against the government, number one,” Flynn said in a debate right before the primary. “Hunting’s number two. But protecting us against our government is number one.”

Remember, Flynn was trying to land a job in the government (he didn’t win his party’s nomination, by the way).

The idea is that we have to be just as armed as our government in order to be safer or have more liberty (or something). The U.S. government has unmanned drones armed with supersonic laser-guided anti-armor Hellfire missiles, “bunker busters,” and nuclear weapons. Are far-right politicians saying we need civilians to have shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles “for protection?”

Of course they’re not. They actually do want limits on ownership.

And if you ask the most vehement gun rights advocate why gun owners shouldn’t have nuclear weapons, I’d bet you’d get the same answer as to why we don’t want every country to have the capability: “Because they could get into the wrong hands.”

So weapons-grade plutonium should be limited. But the ever-handy semi-auto Glock pistol with a 30-round high-capacity magazine is an absolute right?

A recent gun buyback drive in Los Angeles resulted in someone turning in a rocket launcher. Comforting.

So we’re not actually talking about limited vs. unlimited. We are talking about degrees of weapon ownership.

Guns fall into the wrong hands all the time. More guns and fewer requirements for ownership doesn’t curb this.

George Zimmerman was the wrong hands. Zimmerman, a Florida man now infamous for shooting an unarmed black teenager at close range after a 911 operator told him not to engage the alleged suspect and wait for police to arrive, is now being defended by said hyper-political gun owners.

There’s no reason a Neighborhood Watch captain should be patrolling his block with a criminal record and a pistol. Zimmerman was a catastrophe realized. Even in the wake of new evidence about this case, the fact remains if Zimmerman didn’t have a gun, 16-year-old Trayvon Martin would be alive.

The United States is number one in the world in civilian gun ownership. And since we’re not last in gun violence (we’re the 14th highest in deaths—way higher in just injuries) it’s safe to assume that increasing the number of guns doesn’t decrease the number of gun deaths.

Just like cutting taxes doesn’t increase revenue—making gun ownership unlimited doesn’t make us safer.

It’s a lie. A fairy tale of the gun lobby. Completely unsupported by data or logic. A falsehood.

So unless you think all Americans should get Daisy Cutters this Christmas—you believe in regulations as to who gets a weapon, what kind and where they can have it.

Gun control laws are not tyranny—as the family of Trayvon Martin can testify to—a de-regulated militia is.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; dupuy; georgezimmerman; liberalfascism; tinadupuy; trayvon; zimmerman
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To: RedMonqey
It's been said before that the National Guard is NOT what the founders meant. Otherwise it would have been assembled prior to 1912.

Regulated does not mean controlled or banned. In 1780's language, it just means "armed".

41 posted on 05/24/2012 4:50:48 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: MileHi

I never heard a follow up but drunk or high was my guess. If she was truly lost she should have immediately stated her confusion and not moved another muscle. Maybe shine her flashlight in her own face to demonstrate some compliance and sincerity.


42 posted on 05/24/2012 4:53:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: boop
Little Bill was a corrupt Democrat. Perfect example.

Deifying his authority brought harsh retribution.

43 posted on 05/24/2012 4:54:15 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sirius Lee
... the “wild west” had some of the strictest gun control laws..

The author is an ass.

Agreed

Utter BS.

Towns had ordinances about outsiders "carrying" guns into town(mostly because of drunken cowboys )Their guns were returned to them when they left...

Anyone who wanted a gun could buy and own a gun of their choice
44 posted on 05/24/2012 4:54:52 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: MileHi
Deifying should be defying...
45 posted on 05/24/2012 4:56:36 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: TigersEye

Lucky to be alive. That hitch in her get-a-long will remind her not to be stupid for the rest of her life


46 posted on 05/24/2012 4:59:23 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: boop
It's been said before that the National Guard is NOT what the founders meant.

Agreed

Although Washington had a low opinion of the "unorganised" militas, they were instrumental in many battles that would have otherwise been lost.


47 posted on 05/24/2012 5:00:25 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: MileHi
Like in the movie "High Plains Drifter" when they let the bad guys out of prison, they handed them their gun belts back as they left the gates.

But not their horses....(chuckle)
48 posted on 05/24/2012 5:04:27 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: RedMonqey

Paid for their own grub... {:0)


49 posted on 05/24/2012 5:07:10 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=1


50 posted on 05/24/2012 6:06:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=1


51 posted on 05/24/2012 6:06:51 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: MileHi

yep ....(chuckle)


52 posted on 05/24/2012 6:09:57 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The writer of this piece, might have had something worth reading, until he inserted this:
“Just like cutting taxes doesn’t increase revenue—making gun ownership unlimited doesn’t make us safer. “

This man knows not economics, and by all accounts of public information, it has been validated that gun ownership has resulted in less crime.

This man is a Statist, and not worth the kilobytes wasted to trasmit his article!


53 posted on 05/24/2012 8:25:39 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: boop

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.


54 posted on 05/24/2012 10:24:36 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ten bucks says that Tina's just another Carl Rowan.To those too young to recognize that name just google it.After having done so you'll know why dictionaries feature *his* photo next to the definition of “hypocrisy”.
55 posted on 05/29/2012 4:50:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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