Posted on 03/31/2012 11:28:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
LOL! You will definitely enjoy that movie. It illustrates your predicament to a tee. It’s streaming on NetFlix, if you have that.
You've never touched a gun, have you?
You've have no training in how to handle an assault, have you?
I can't believe I'm reading you bleatings on FR. This is a pro-2nd, pro-self-defense forum.
FLORIDA’S STAND YOUR GROUND LAW Op-Ed: Why I Wrote ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law
March 26, 2012
Also - Rep. Dennis Baxley’s Fox News piece “Trayvon Martin’s alleged attacker not covered under law I wrote.”
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/26/149404276/op-ed-why-i-wrote-stand-your-ground-law
So why post it?
No, I mis-understood the law, and yes I have handled firearms. From what I first read about the law it was that if a person “felt” their life was in danger, then they have a right to defend themselves. “Felt”? “Feel”?? You cannot put subjective words like that into a law that decides between life and death.
I live in New York city, city of lunatics. If someone has a fear of clowns then they have a right to shoot someone dressed as a clown because they “feel” threatened?
What the law DOES say is if you have a REASONABLE threat against your life, THEN you can stand your ground and shoot.
I mentioned all this because the MSM was using the word “feel” to describe the law to make Zimmerman appear more reckless.
Read my other posts dude.
Would a reasonable person have believed that they were in imminent death or great bodily harm by you walking in the door? (The answer is no, by the way) If not, then the Stand Your Ground law of Florida would not apply. The girl's personal view is also filtered through what a reasonable person would have believed under the circumstances; it's not an 'what did this extremely sensitive idiot believe" law.
However, if you didn't know she was there and you were screaming, at the top of your lungs in time with your iPod, a song with the lyrics "I'M GONNA KILL YOU!" as you swung a 34" Louisville Slugger baseball bat that you just purchased from the memorabilia store (it was signed by Will Clark), and you lunged into the ATM, then a reasonable person, given your height and appearance, may have reasonably believed she was in danger of imminent death or great bodily harm. In that case, she could have shot you and then pleaded the Stand Your Ground law.
Yeah, I set up a Parade of Horribles, but it was necessary to make a point.
By the way, in law school, they teach you about gentle giants - and how a 6'10" 400 lb. man may cause a reasonable fear in people even though he would never harm anyone. You've given me no reason to believe you are violent, but given your size, and being bald with a beard and tattoos, you have to accept how people view you. They are going to be more afraid that you could do great bodily harm to them than a 5'6" guy with glasses, a short-sleeve shirt, and a clip-on tie.
That's all part of what a 'reasonable man' (which includes a woman) would think. There's a consequence to tattooing "DIE YOU MOTHERF***ER!" across your forehead (again, an extreme example) and wearing a t-shirt from county correctional if you're 6'8" and work out. And consequences to winning the genetic lottery and simply being born huge. People are going to be more likely to be thinking you mean them harm as you move toward them, and a jury is going to judge that belief as more likely to be reasonable than if it's directed to a 72-year-old guy in a wheelchair.
It's the law. And if you don't like it, remember Dickens: "If the law supposes that, the law is an ass."
When you have a mythological “narrative” that conflicts with all the physical evidence and witness statements, what do you do?
Ignore the evidence until you can paint it all as part of the “conspiracy.”
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To let others know?
Ding!
I'm saying it is completely irrelevant in this case.
Zimmerman needs protection from no such law to use force in the manner he did.
Only because the Republican party is both lazy & spineless . I am convinced that the GOP has decided to become like the European right wing to lazy/cowardly to fight for freedom but instead they will claim that they can run the utterly corrupt nanny state more “efficiently” the the party of Slavery,Socialism & Sodomy (aka the Democrats).
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