[plain talk]

We need to stay in and straighten the Pubs out. Any prospects of doing that are all an illusion.

You may be right. However I would say there is a higher probability of that happening and winning the Presidency than trying it via a 3rd party approach.

[Grizzled Bear]

However I would say there is a higher probability of that happening and winning the Presidency than trying it via a 3rd party approach.

If the GOP has no fear of ignoring the wishes of it's base, it will not represent that base.

When the GOP represents conservatives, conservatives will support the GOP.

Do you see how simple it is?