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To: N3WBI3; antiRepublicrat; TechJunkYard

I remember a discussion a year or so ago that exploits on MAC/Apple systems were impossible. I wonder if techjunkyard and N3WBI3 will be here to help explain how this can happen.

As I stated then...security by obscurity is not real security.

Apologies to those on the TO: line if you weren't one of the defenders of apples perfection.


16 posted on 01/03/2007 1:57:28 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton
I remember a discussion a year or so ago that exploits on MAC/Apple systems were impossible.

I certainly hope nobody said it, because exploits already existed back then. However, active exploits in the wild, actually taking over Macs, do not exist yet. Maybe some day...

As I stated then...security by obscurity is not real security.

Then it's good that Macs don't rely on it.

18 posted on 01/03/2007 2:09:23 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: for-q-clinton
I remember a discussion a year or so ago that exploits on MAC/Apple systems were impossible. I wonder if techjunkyard and N3WBI3 will be here to help explain how this can happen.

The funny thing is that on the Mac and other tech forums, every Mac user posting is saying they cannot get the MOAB Quicktime "exploit" to work!

In fact, it doesn't work on Macs that do not have a "Ruby" interpreter installed. Ruby does not get installed on a default OS X installation. You might have Ruby installed if you use MySQL but not if you don't.

As I stated then...security by obscurity is not real security.

Let's AGAIN discuss the myth of Security by Obscurity. That canard has been shot down many times by people far more expert than I. What obscurity is it when there are 20-22,000,000 Mac OS X users in the installed base? Various scientific polls of consumer computer users have shown that between 14% and 18% are Mac users. OS X is going on six years of operation with ZERO malware... and people are still claiming "Obscurity" as the reason no crackers have written any effective viruses, adware or spyware impacting the platform.

44 posted on 01/03/2007 10:29:03 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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