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Two catastrophic airline disasters in the space of 3 days narrowly averted as controllers apparently not up to the job
American Thinker ^ | 23 Apr, 2024 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 04/23/2024 1:14:35 PM PDT by MtnClimber

Are you aware that there have been two near-catastrophes at major American airports (DC Reagan and NY JFK) where airplanes were cleared to cross runways as another airplane was taking off?

A runway collision on takeoff is almost by definition the deadliest form of airline disaster, since two or more airplanes, at least one fueled up for the coming journey, collide at takeoff speed, likely engulfing them in fireballs. That is how the deadliest airline disaster in history, happened in Tenerife, killing 583 people.

The first incident took place last Thursday, April 18, at Reagan National Airport when the tower controller ordered a Southwest jet to cross a runway as a Jet Blue plane was taking off. You can watch the movements and hear the radio conversation, including the panic in the tower as the imminent disaster was spotted, in this tweet:

southwest + jetblue planes nearly collided on the runway at Reagan airport in DC today

A mere 3 days later, at JFK Airport, a Swiss Airlines jumbo jet was at the end of the runway cleared for takeoff when multiple airliners, including a Delta jumbo jet were cleared to cross the runway. Watch and listen:

So, how could these incidents be taking place? And why now?

It’s almost as if less qualified personnel have been hired and placed in positions of critical responsibility. But could such a thing be possible?

While we don’t know anything about the people involved in these incidents, it is fair to wonder if DEI policies, which lower standards to place less qualified people in jobs, had anything to do with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; airports; dei; die; diversity; woke
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To: MtnClimber

Gee, if we only had a Department of Transportation with a really talented person to up head things like this wouldn’t happen ... Oh wait we have the department but no talented head in charge.


21 posted on 04/23/2024 2:18:19 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: mabarker1

Not a problem so long as you have the $$$$$$ LOL


22 posted on 04/23/2024 2:47:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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To: antidemoncrat

Worse, he himself is a DEI appointment with zero skills at anything.


23 posted on 04/23/2024 2:57:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There is NO diversity in the “customer base” the FAA serves. EVERY customer wants to live, you virtue-signaling jackasses.


24 posted on 04/23/2024 3:11:51 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Very good point.


25 posted on 04/23/2024 3:34:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward SnowdenA)
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To: SkyDancer

At the cost of Cattlecar Tix these days...🤠


26 posted on 04/23/2024 3:34:14 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: MtnClimber

Damn scary...


27 posted on 04/23/2024 3:34:56 PM PDT by nutmeg (FJB)
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To: MachIV

2008 was the last time for me. No wish to fly ever again.
I’ll stick to sailing my fast trimaran.


28 posted on 04/23/2024 3:38:22 PM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: MtnClimber

I was involved in a very close “near miss” when landing at a medium sized airport in one of the Rocky Mountain States. A trainee controller was having trouble distinguishing “R” from “L” and tried to put two aircraft on the same runway at the same time. I could read the “D/C” on a headset in the other bird ...

This was long before Didn’t Earn It was polluting everything. Stuff happens even at the best of times. DIE is just going to make it worse.


29 posted on 04/23/2024 3:43:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: MtnClimber

I plan to visit a friend in the NYC area in the next few months. Flight time is about 1.5 hours. Drive time is pretty much a full day. Cost is about the same maybe more driving but not by a lot. Chances I’ll fly are zero.


30 posted on 04/23/2024 3:49:17 PM PDT by xp38
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To: MtnClimber

It’s pretty obvious that 2 of the 3 voices in the first clip are black. Does that make them unqualified? Who knows, but it’s fair to ask given the governments fanaticism with DEI. In the second audio clip one of the controllers sounds Indian while the other two males white.


31 posted on 04/23/2024 4:28:49 PM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!)
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To: mabarker1

The stress on controllers during busy times is pretty hard. Usually there are three to four controllers plus a super in the tower. Two controllers per two rwy’s if there are more that two at the airport. There’s more to this than our esteemed MSM is willing to report, or, it doesn’t fit their narrative.


32 posted on 04/23/2024 4:47:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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To: MtnClimber
Per FAA req's:

Entry-level applicants must complete required training courses and spend several months at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City. After graduating the academy, individuals are placed in locations across the country and must gain 1-3 years on-the-job experience before becoming a certified professional controller.

33 posted on 04/23/2024 4:49:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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To: silverleaf
The one recording I heard sounded just like the short black woman from the Police Academy movies.

I was on an airplane at least every year from 1971 to 2017. Haven't been on a plane since then.

And my wife is flying tomorrow for a one-week trip to visit her brother.

34 posted on 04/23/2024 5:30:25 PM PDT by Bernard (“God's cruelest punishment is to let you reap what you sow.”)
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To: SkyDancer

“The stress on controllers during busy times is pretty hard. Usually there are three to four controllers plus a super in the tower. Two controllers per two rwy’s if there are more that two at the airport. There’s more to this than our esteemed MSM is willing to report, or, it doesn’t fit their narrative.”

DEI idiocy aside, and in addition to insufficient staffing/overload issues - if I understand correctly, there is significantly better ATC equipment/systems currently available than what’s being used, including runway/taxiway collision avoidance software. If that’s accurate, what/who is blocking it?


35 posted on 04/23/2024 6:01:37 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Not sure. I’ve heard that 5g cellphone service can interrupt nav systems, then too, I read where Russia is messing with flight GPS systems in Europe.


36 posted on 04/23/2024 6:32:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (~A Bizjet Is Nothing But An Executive Mailing Tube ~)
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To: SkyDancer
How many must DIE (as in Diversity, Inclusion & Equity) due to THIS TOTALLY IDIOTIC DEMOCRAT BULLSHIT. I just want to be there when the US version of the NUREMBERG TRIALS begin!


37 posted on 04/23/2024 6:49:45 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: MtnClimber

Another Buttigieg disaster.


38 posted on 04/23/2024 7:22:06 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Gay State Conservative

“There were several important factors involved...the KLM captain,the fog,the number of large aircraft at that small airport,the outdated radio system...”

No. Every other factor is simply the setting in which that ass lost his mind. But that ass doing the stupidest possible thing is why those people died. Any defense of him citing fog etc doesn’t have a leg to stand on. He subordinated safety to his desire to go.


39 posted on 04/24/2024 4:43:18 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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