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Scientists say they can use AI to solve a key problem in the quest for near-limitless clean energy
CNN ^ | Updated 12:16 PM EST, Wed February 21, 2024 | By Angela Dewan, CNN

Posted on 02/21/2024 11:45:28 AM PST by Red Badger

Scientists pursuing fusion energy say they have found a way to overcome one of their biggest challenges to date — by using artificial intelligence.

Nuclear fusion has for decades been hailed as a near-limitless source of clean energy, in what would be a game-changing solution to the climate crisis. But experts have only achieved and sustained fusion energy for a few seconds, and many obstacles remain, including instabilities in the highly complex process.

There are several ways to achieve fusion energy, but the most common involves using hydrogen variants as an input fuel and raising temperatures to extraordinarily high levels in a donut-shaped machine, known as a tokamak, to create a plasma, a soup-like state of matter.

But that plasma needs to be controlled and is highly susceptible to “tearing” and escaping the machine’s powerful magnetic fields that are designed to keep the plasma contained.

On Wednesday, researchers from Princeton University and the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory reported in the journal Nature they found a way to use AI to forecast these potential instabilities and prevent them from happening in real time.

The team carried out their experiments at the DIII-D National Fusion Facility in San Diego, and found that their AI controller could forecast potential plasma tearing up to 300 milliseconds in advance. Without that intervention, the fusion reaction would have ended suddenly.

“The experiments provide a foundation for using AI to solve a broad range of plasma instabilities, which have long hindered fusion energy,” a Princeton spokesperson said.

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1 posted on 02/21/2024 11:45:28 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Science is good.

Scientists are not.


2 posted on 02/21/2024 11:48:07 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Red Badger
Here's the ChatGPT answer this morning to that very question: "How do we get limitless energy from fusion?"


3 posted on 02/21/2024 11:49:23 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Red Badger
I've already read about that here:

Monckton Announces a Sustainable-Energy Startup: Invest Now!

LOL!

4 posted on 02/21/2024 11:49:35 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: BenLurkin

“Scientists are not.”

Scientists are good.


5 posted on 02/21/2024 11:49:59 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I believe that’s genuine frontier gibberish.


6 posted on 02/21/2024 11:50:53 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: BenLurkin

Just a few more billions and another 20 years and the boffins will have a working fusion reactor...really, really.

(rolls eyes)

It never ends, grant money paradise, thy name is “Fusion”.


7 posted on 02/21/2024 11:51:28 AM PST by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: Red Badger

8 posted on 02/21/2024 11:53:42 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s not ChatGPT.
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That’s Biden.

You can’t fool me!.....................


9 posted on 02/21/2024 11:55:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Billthedrill

Yep, spouted by the newest version of GabbyJohnsonGPT.


10 posted on 02/21/2024 11:55:22 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Red Badger

Dang...ya caught me! Can’t put nothing past you, Red.


11 posted on 02/21/2024 11:57:02 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Red Badger

Q: How do we solve the energy problem?
A: Fusion power.
Q: How do we make it work?
A: Tax Americans and send the money to the UN.
Signed Colossus-Guardian (from The Forbin Project)


12 posted on 02/21/2024 12:01:44 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Red Badger

Q: How do we solve the energy problem?
A: Fusion power.
Q: How do we make it work?
A: Tax Americans and send the money to the UN.
Signed Colossus-Guardian (from The Forbin Project)


13 posted on 02/21/2024 12:01:44 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Red Badger

Q: How do we solve the energy problem?
A: Fusion power.
Q: How do we make it work?
A: Tax Americans and send the money to the UN.
Signed Colossus-Guardian (from The Forbin Project)


14 posted on 02/21/2024 12:01:45 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Zathras

Oops


15 posted on 02/21/2024 12:02:25 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Red Badger

As a side note, I read that Nvidia’s H100 AI chip uses about 700 watts, which on a yearly basis, is about 3,600 KWh a year at 61% utilization

This power consumption is equal to an average American 3-bedroom home

Nvidia has sold a million of these, which has already added a Phoenix-size city of electrical demand. Future plans to sell even more such AI chips would add even more demand - a Houston or Los Angeles size increase in power demand - EVERY YEAR.


16 posted on 02/21/2024 12:03:20 PM PST by PGR88
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To: TexasGator

It can be reasonably argued that fusion power is about where AI was in 2016.

imho AI will enable some compounding effects across the spectrum of fusion research. Plus it will —and is— accelerating the pace of testing.


17 posted on 02/21/2024 12:03:32 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Zathras

What?


18 posted on 02/21/2024 12:03:39 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: TexasGator

Like Mengele?
Ishii?
Gottleib?


19 posted on 02/21/2024 12:07:28 PM PST by EEGator
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To: PGR88

Between power hungry computer chips and EVs the future of wind and solar is assured...................


20 posted on 02/21/2024 12:07:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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