Posted on 01/31/2024 12:15:51 AM PST by Morgana
No way we can know, but knowing what we do about hypoxia and death by nitrogen, this guy’s antics don’t fit.
I think it’s a good possibility he threw a fit to make it look bad because he was so against it. “I’ll throw a fit and they will never know I’m doing this - this is my final act I can do to protest the procedure. So I’ll give it all I can to look bad.”
He succeeded.
And no one knows what really happened.
Could be the ultimate lie.......on his way out......
Why don’t they use fentanyl? It is quite deadly and there seems to be an abundance of it streaming across the border. People who OD on it just drift away with the needle still in their arm. Fentanyl is also used by anesthetists in hospitals. It works really well.
Same here. I was told to count backward from 20...I remember saying 20, 19, 18...and then I woke up in recovery!
I work in construction safety...even worked in industrial plants for a few years. We discuss nitrogen safety as it is used as a purging gas in pipelines, tanks, etc...
There have been accidental deaths attributed to Nitrogen seeping into confined spaces. The people simply fell asleep, never to wake. They did not convulse, thrash, gag, or anything else. They were working and then simply dropped. And if they were not extracted in SECONDS, they probably died!
About two full breaths of nitrogen will result in unconsciousness - so any thrashing, etc...was not “painful”...the guy was completely unaware of the events after those first couple of breaths - PERIOD!!
Firing squad should be used. Quick cheap and sure.
The witnesses lied through their teeth. They are all anti-death penalty stooges and went off the same script.
Dude held his breath and thrashed. He held it quite awhile. Finally he was forced to breath it in, and lost consciousness in seconds.
Then died.
THAT’S what happens when you breath pure Nitrogen in.
Holding your breath a long time is painful. But it’s not painful, at all, from lack of Oxygen. It’s painful from the build up of CO2 in your blood, which can’t be released because you stopped exhaling. The buildup of CO2 in your blood changes the pH, lowers it, and that makes your body go, Woah!! What’s happening? This hurts!!
It’s the buildup of carbonic acid in your blood from CO2 that sux. Breathing out then in relieves the pain. Do it in pure nitrogen and the pain is gone instantly. CO2 is eliminated, and you basically pass out painlessly in moments. The passout is from lack of Oxygen, and it’s painless.
Yes, I’ve experienced it.
It’s the easiest way to croak, if you have to go that route.
(Pure CO, Carbon Monoxide, is even more one-way. Nitrogen suffocation can be reversed if you stop it within around 6-10 minutes. But 4 breaths of pure CO and you’re dead, period, even if you don’t know it yet. Can’t be reversed.)
There seems to be an easy answer for this issue.
Common paralytics used for surgery include:
Succinylcholine
Rocuronium
Vecuronium
Mivacurium
Atracurium
Cisatracurium
so just give them any one of these in combination with the gas, and problem solved.
YEP!!
I had some surgery in November. They had me shift over from the gurney to the operating table, and the next moment (to me) I was waking up in recovery. No counting backward beforehand and no sense of elapsed time. I don’t know what anesthetic drug they used, but it worked fine.
Yep, he clearly played it up as his last act of defiance. He held his breath for as long as he could and did lots of thrashing around to create maximum ghastliness. I wouldn’t be surprised if he managed to get some air past the seal of the facemask with all his contortions. It’s incredible that the Alabama prison officials didn’t foresee what he’d do. They seem to have designed the procedure for a compliant participant which is the opposite of what he was. Just incredible ineptitude on their part IMO.
Nice try.
I too have had a recent colonoscopy and whatever they used, I was “out” in seconds. However, the drug was given by IV and starting an IV has been the whole problem with lethal injection as a means of capital punishment. Nitrogen should have rendered him unconscious immediately and it may have been the way it was administered or the inmate holding his breath that caused the mess. Industrial accidents with nitrogen seem to have caused the victims to rapidly lose consciousness.
I put my pets down with a 38 to the back of the head and it is quick, as painless as possible as a death can be and as merciful as a death can be.
It is only the fear of death that is painful and a pet knows no fear as they trust that their owner will do the thing that is best for them, and I believe that I always have.
They could have gassed him with air, and his antics would have been revealed as faked.
Oh, it was a technician’s mistake, they turned the wrong valve (DIE employee).
And if he thrashed enough, he might have offed himself anyway.
Freon will also work. It is a powerful anesthetic and many of our anesthetic gases used in surgery have a similar chemical structure.
Fentanyl will work. However, the drug companies will not sell it for this purpose. It is a pretty simple chemical synthesis. A state could make their own in a lab for this use.
Hydrogen sulfide gas works much in the same manner as carbon monoxide.
Firing squad works, but it is unsightly.
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