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The JFK assassination: When America lost its innocence
CBS news ^ | 11/11/23 | Bob Schieffer

Posted on 11/20/2023 11:53:36 AM PST by DallasBiff

(CBS News) There are not many of us left who covered the assassination of John Kennedy, but only those of us who were alive before that awful weekend can really know how much it changed America.

We had been a confident nation. We had won World War II. We believed in our leaders. We came to see our presidents as all but invincible.

Because of television, we had come to know John Kennedy and his family more intimately than any of his predecessors.

Then, in a matter of seconds, he was killed by a madman.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: america; jfk
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To: DallasBiff

Well he had good taste, Marilyn Monroe.

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Marilyn Monroe was a *** dumpster.


21 posted on 11/20/2023 12:09:55 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: DallasBiff

Wrong.

Lee Harvey Oswald was not a “madman”. He was a committed communist, just like Bob Scheiffer.


22 posted on 11/20/2023 12:10:22 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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To: DallasBiff

It was interesting to read in J Evetts Haley’s book about LBJ about how quickly Johnson set into motion the oath of office and other things related to his taking the Presidency so soon after Kennedy was killed. Made you wonder what kind of stake LBJ had in all of that.


23 posted on 11/20/2023 12:11:05 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: DallasBiff

Other than that Mrs. Kennedy how was the ride from the airport?


24 posted on 11/20/2023 12:12:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Veto!

Kennedy actually was a human being and fought them, but any post here draws the same venom against him from lemmings who would defend Nelson Rockefeller, Gerald Ford, Nixon and other betraying Rino’s who came later. It’s Republican right or wrong, ya know.


25 posted on 11/20/2023 12:14:13 PM PST by Luke21
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To: wardamneagle
The Parkland doctors have a different perspective on the
head wound....it was an exit wound.

 

Yes, and the throat wound? They agreed in was a ENTRANCE wound.


26 posted on 11/20/2023 12:14:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: dfwgator

I suspect you are correct.


27 posted on 11/20/2023 12:16:39 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: DallasBiff

Kennedy’s death was quickly pinned by Donkey Party hacks on domestic right wing boogeymen.

This despite the fact that trigger-puller Oswald was a hardened socialist.

And of course it comes out that, now, the CIA is being credibly fingered as the ringleading or mastermind organization that coldly rid themselves of JFK.


28 posted on 11/20/2023 12:16:39 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: DallasBiff
Seems to me that JFK’s election as President was as much an indicator of our nation’s decline as his assassination. And these were nearly matched by the media propaganda that elevated this mediocrity as an iconic national figure for decades after his death.
29 posted on 11/20/2023 12:16:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: DallasBiff

National Geographic has a new 3-part series on November 22, 1963, and the days that followed. I watched the first episode, and tried to watch the second, but it contained nothing more than the original horse shit that was fed to us 60 years ago. I lost my own innocence, and gullibility once I realized that our own government had taken JFK out.


30 posted on 11/20/2023 12:18:38 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Veto!
Yes, that a began the decline. Kennedy was the last good, smart, unbribable Dem.

 

Unbribable? This man won his election due to the Mafia. He owed his LIFE to the mob. Yes, Johnson and the CIA had him killed, but they used Mafia connections to do the killing.

31 posted on 11/20/2023 12:19:17 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Sorry I disagree. I kind of thought like you at one point but in the last few years have changed my thinking on Kennedy. Within the last three years I read several books that had a lot of information on Kennedy I had not read before and the times he lived in that made me see he was trying to do a number of things that were for this country.

One of the reasons the Kennedy assassination was a pivotal moment was the technology we had with TV, it brought that tragedy right into your home and made it real not just a newspaper headline.

Kennedy saw that the CIA was already out of control and wanted to do something about them and probably was killed for doing so.

There is a brand new book on the Cuban Missile Crisis by Max Hastings I want to read that also may have a lot of new insights about Kennedy.

If he were running today against the sorry choices we have now I probably would vote for him. So much about this and that would have happened in 1964 is just a lot of speculation that holds no water. Kennedy may very well have been re-elected. If nothing else he would have had a much more likability factor than Goldwater. But we will never know.


32 posted on 11/20/2023 12:20:05 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Jim W N

“I would say the administration of FDR is when America lost its freedom and its innocence.”
16th, 17th and 19th amendments killed America.


33 posted on 11/20/2023 12:23:06 PM PST by rellic
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To: DallasBiff

JFK’s assassination definitely marked the beginning of the 1960s as we know it.


34 posted on 11/20/2023 12:27:34 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Was not a devoted Marxist. Maybe started that way as a teenager but later was participant in a false defector program sponsored by the CIA. Came back to serve as a patsy. By several accounts associated with and trained anti Castro Cubans.


35 posted on 11/20/2023 12:27:38 PM PST by 2big2fail (.)
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To: Veto!
"Kennedy was the last good, smart, unbribable Dem."

Despite having spent some years in Washington, between the House and the Senate, I believe JFK was still naive, like Trump, when it came to the government corruption that eventually killed him. Between the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and the assassination of South Vietnam's President Diem just 20 days before his own death, Kennedy's eye were opened up to the abuses of the CIA, and the other intelligence agencies...and it cost him his life.

36 posted on 11/20/2023 12:28:20 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
You are certainly allowed to believe what ever fairy tale makes you happy and I am sure you would vote for the guy who; gave Cuba to the communists, got a bunch of our allies killed and started the "never trust the Americans to back you" trope, allowed the USSR to have a missile base in Cuba, got rid of our missiles in Turkey, screwed the pooch so badly in Vietnam that we ended up in a unnecessary war there and gave us the gift of unionized government employees. Not to mention LBJ that he put on the ticket knowing he was a crook so he could steal the vote in Texas. All gifts that just kept on giving and giving and giving.
37 posted on 11/20/2023 12:29:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: DallasBiff
Then, in a matter of seconds, he was killed by a madman.

Believing that is what led to the decline in America.

38 posted on 11/20/2023 12:30:19 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: DallasBiff

The decline of America? It should be noted that nothing really changed with the murder of John Kennedy. That happened a few years later in 1968 when Bobby Kennedy was murdered by a Palestinian immigrant.
When that happened the politicians news media went berserk! They blamed the NRA, Guns, Pulp Fiction and comic books. Glorifying Violence on TV and violence in movies.

So to smoke off Federal government involvement, toy guns disappeared from toy stores. Pulp fiction books had less lurid covers, Comic books disappeared for a while, new gun laws that did nothing were passed. TV shows, mild even then, were dumbed down to kiddie shows, movies shown on TV were butchered to remove “violence”.
But movies for the big screen got a pass when they said they would “police themselves” with a joke of a ratings system(GMRX)
Once the Hays code for movies was done away with they proceeded to reshoot scenes adding lots of blood, guts. gore, and sex to get the now coveted “R” and “X” ratings.

Now with satellite and cable TV even TV shows have become more violent and sexual oriented.


39 posted on 11/20/2023 12:31:41 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DallasBiff
I question whether America had maintained its alleged "innocence" until the Kennedy assassination. The country had been through the Civil War, World War I, the Great Depression, World War II, the Cold War, and the development and use of the atomic bomb.

Already in the 40s and early 50s, film noir had created a mood of angst and foreboding. The Kennedy assassination happened to roughly coincide with the rise of the New Left and its corrosive effect on the nation's spirit and culture, but this just accelerated a process that was already underway.
40 posted on 11/20/2023 12:32:16 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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