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Cancel culture versus conservative boycotting of Bud, light target Disney. It's not the same is cancel culture right?
The voice as I hear ^ | NL Z

Posted on 07/09/2023 2:19:10 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Help me formulate a good argument that cancel culture is not the same thing as our conservative boycott of Bud Light, target and Disney.

I don't think they're the same.

Cancel culture is opposition to any opposing voice.

In my mind our boycotting is not an opposition to alternative viewpoints , but opposition to immoral targeting of children.

Thank you.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: boycott; budlight; cancelculture; conservative; disney; excellentpoints; greatpointsmade; inchitchat; queers
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To: Salman

That is true.


21 posted on 07/09/2023 2:43:50 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: NoLibZone
Put aside the topics and deal with just the definitions:

Canceling is an individual's volitional act of publicly rejecting and actively pursuing harm against a perceived transgressor.

Boycotting usually applies to businesses and is about the withdrawal of financial support, such as making purchases.

And that's from "Psychology Today" of all places.
22 posted on 07/09/2023 2:46:41 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: SauronOfMordor

Well stated, IMO.


23 posted on 07/09/2023 2:47:53 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: NoLibZone

>> cancel culture vs boycott

Cancel Culture aims to silence the individual’s career and speech typically through character assassination. Boycotts take aim at the seller of materials the consumer refuses to purchase. The former is hostile aggression against an individual. The latter is passive aggression against a corporation.


24 posted on 07/09/2023 2:49:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NoLibZone

Cancel Culture is far broader than boycotting. It is no less than the revision of history, a la Orwell’s 1984. It is destruction of a symbol, or icon, by revision — framing it in a very pejorative way, and attacking it, w/o basis in fact.

Boycotting Bud Light is not that. Instead, it is reacting negatively to a faux pas, such as Edmund Muskie crying on the courthouse steps, or Dukakis in his macho tank moment (or eschewing the death penalty even for someone who raped his wife). That is not cancel culture. That is merely poor messaging.

Big difference.


25 posted on 07/09/2023 2:54:42 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: NoLibZone

Cancel culture aims, through confrontation and intimidation, to eliminate every point of view with which leftoids disagree; to the point that those who hold those views are destroyed socially, economically, personally and, possibly, physically.

The idea being to annihilate all opposition.

Those who boycott Bud Light and Disney are simply choosing to spend their money elsewhere, with the effect of crippling the brands economically.

The idea being that these brands are free to continue to do as they please, but not with my money.

Huge difference.


26 posted on 07/09/2023 2:56:11 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: NoLibZone

Nope! Totally disagree whole heartedly.

Cancel culture is the destruction of a person or business who holds a different moral or immoral opinion than you.

Cancel culture does not provide a public choice in the matter.

Boycotts on the other hand are people simply choosing to not do business with or purchase from an entity. At no point does a boycott interfere with the publics ability to choose.


27 posted on 07/09/2023 2:58:45 PM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: NoLibZone
--- "Help me formulate a good argument that cancel culture is not the same thing as our conservative boycott of Bud Light, target and Disney. I don't think they're the same."

It has been said that the plural of anecdote is data.

Individual choices, not being led by a "leader" much less a :dear leader" and not being involved in taking away another's choice cannot be even a boycott.

Case in point: My wife and I spend decades as legal residents of Germany, and some of our favorite breweries were small and local. Therefore WE cannot participate in any Bud Lite "cancel" event, because we haven't ever "enjoyed" the swill which passes for American "lite" beer. Even these days, we buy German beer, at prices far above what Mulvaney Lite is being sold for, promoted by a transvestite con artist. Ditto for Disney, as the new junk is junk. (We have the original Soung of the South, before editing out the 'insensitive' scenes.) Making an individual buying decision is individual. Not part of a "movement," unless you say it is. Bud Lite is piss water, and Disney turning queer -- their term -- generates a buying preference to NOT BUY. To walk away.

Any one trying to tell you an individual preference -- yes, discrimination between products, vendors, media and the like -- is some how offensive to THEM needs the obvious response. Walk away. And even once "walk away" became a small political statement, which the "cancel" and "censorship" types hated.

Cancel culture cannot be the same thing as a bunch of individuals adding up to a boycott, because one thing is demonstrable. "They" want to force you to do / believe / accept their terms, when there isn't even an open negotiation.

"Do as I say!" Nah, walk away.

28 posted on 07/09/2023 3:00:50 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: NoLibZone

2 arguments:

1) Not so fun being the recipient is it?

2) cancel culture is an ACTIVE process of REMOVING and DOXING people and ideas which do not adhere to the leftist narrative.

This is just choosing to NOT use money on a product. To say it is cancel culture would mean there is an affirmative requirement to purchase the product. There is no such requirement.


29 posted on 07/09/2023 3:08:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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To: NoLibZone

Cancel culture involves the threat and use of administrative force. It is tyranny by a minority who appeal to authority to silence and destroy their critics. The majority is coerced into compliance.

A boycott involves the will of the people to shun that with which they disagree. It’s a democratic process for change. The minority is encouraged to conform to cultural norms by market forces.

Not the same.


30 posted on 07/09/2023 3:10:46 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: NoLibZone

Yes, it’s different. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.


31 posted on 07/09/2023 3:16:57 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: NoLibZone

Cancel culture involves demanding that someone else do something to stifle a voice you don’t like. Grass roots boycotts involve people individually choosing not to do business with a person or company.

When you shriek that “so and so” should be fired because ______ (insert cause du jour), it’s cancel culture. When you say “I’ll not be buying bud light anymore.” it’s a grass roots boycott.


32 posted on 07/09/2023 3:22:35 PM PDT by MortMan (Lawfare puts the label on the banana republic.)
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To: NoLibZone

I prefer boycott.

I still buy icecream, just not Unlilever’s.

Razors, just not Gillette’s.

Coffee, just not Starbucks.

Cola, just not Coke’s.

I still buy, so it’s a buycott..

See how simple that is? 😁


33 posted on 07/09/2023 3:25:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

I prefer buycott.

That’s buycott, bloody spell checker...

Grrrrr...


34 posted on 07/09/2023 3:26:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: NoLibZone
In my view, the Bud Light "boycott" was NOT an organized, collective action led by some sort of influencer(s) single or plural. The "bubble bath" and other BL ads featuring Dylan Mulvaney was universally off-putting, the backlash was spontaneous and generated by near-universal revulsion. It was organic, if that word can be used. Virtually each and every BL drinker said or thought "I want no part of this". And "I don't need nobody to tell me that is sick and I don't wanna be anywhere near that if that is what Bud Light is or wants to be". That is strictly my opinion, of course. My view is also that your typical Bud Light drinker is not some aspirational yuppie stepping up to a fern bar. I might be accused of encapsulating a whole group or class of people, but I believe the great majority of BL *CONSUMPTION* are good ol' boys working on their cars and they want to be able to drink a 6 pack without getting too bloated or blitzed over 5 hours working on a carburetor. Notice I used the word "consumption ". There certainly are (or were) numerous drinkers of Bud Light who will drink a couple or three at a picnic or backyard BBQ who would (before this brouhaha) drink BL or any other damn beer that was iced up in the cooler. I seriously doubt the drastic drop in BL sales occurred from yuppies at the fern bar or 2-beer backyard bbq types. 'Cause for every one of them, there many more "6 pack at a whack" good ol boys who dropped BL like a roaring hot exhaust manifold.

Whereas your typical liberal boycott requires some number of influencers seeking out whatever they can find to be offended by and using their influence to "spread the word", with any number of hangers-on aping the sentiment. Not that carburetor rebuilders are deep thinkers, but the hangers-on of lib boycotts aren't committed. They're just TikTokking their afternoon away and wouldn't give a crap if they were not encouraged by whatever stupid influencer they believe has clout. It's just a momentary contact high for them. That is why those boycotts typically fade out over time.

Besides all of that, the BL thing isn't a "conservative" thing, it's just a male thing, or a cis-male thing. These boycotters aren't out to become offended at some slight or slip of the tongue.

35 posted on 07/09/2023 3:42:13 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: NoLibZone

Opposing perverts who are seeking sex with innocent children is not the same thing as going after someone because of their political or social opinions. Not even close. The first is a crime and why the Drs mutilating children haven’t been arrested and hanged under Nuremberg rules is a crime in itself.


36 posted on 07/09/2023 3:43:47 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: NoLibZone

Conservatives say we won’t buy your products.

Leftist cancel culture says you don’t have a right to exist.


37 posted on 07/09/2023 3:51:29 PM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: NoLibZone
Cancel culture is an inexact term; roughly it means against civilized culture and for . . . well, for Satan.

Conservatives are for civilized culture and against destroying civilization as we know it. We believe our rights come from our Creator.

Basically good versus evil. Don't support evil.

38 posted on 07/09/2023 3:56:40 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: NoLibZone

Thank you freepers.

Excellent points made on cancel culture versus boycotting.


39 posted on 07/09/2023 3:59:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback on Covid & no trial jailed Jan 6 protesters.)
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To: Retrofitted

I found the article you’re referencing in psychology today

Thank you

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-science-behind-behavior/202007/what-is-cancel-culture


40 posted on 07/09/2023 4:09:47 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Ruling class noticed our total lack of pushback on Covid & no trial jailed Jan 6 protesters.)
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