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Revealed: more than 90% of rainforest carbon offsets by biggest certifier are worthless, analysis shows
Guardian ^ | January 18, 2023 | Patrick Greenfield

Posted on 03/30/2023 1:55:51 AM PDT by grundle

Investigation into Verra carbon standard finds most are ‘phantom credits’ and may worsen global heating

The forest carbon offsets approved by the world’s leading certifier and used by Disney, Shell, Gucci and other big corporations are largely worthless and could make global heating worse, according to a new investigation.

The research into Verra, the world’s leading carbon standard for the rapidly growing $2bn (£1.6bn) voluntary offsets market, has found that, based on analysis of a significant percentage of the projects, more than 90% of their rainforest offset credits – among the most commonly used by companies – are likely to be “phantom credits” and do not represent genuine carbon reductions.

The analysis raises questions over the credits bought by a number of internationally renowned companies – some of them have labelled their products “carbon neutral”, or have told their consumers they can fly, buy new clothes or eat certain foods without making the climate crisis worse.

But doubts have been raised repeatedly over whether they are really effective.

The nine-month investigation has been undertaken by the Guardian, the German weekly Die Zeit and SourceMaterial, a non-profit investigative journalism organisation. It is based on new analysis of scientific studies of Verra’s rainforest schemes.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: climageddon; climatechange; con; credits; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; loot; scam
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To: grundle

But hey...Al Gore still gets his 10%!


21 posted on 03/30/2023 4:09:12 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: grundle

They burried the lede:

“Barbara Haya, the director of the Berkeley Carbon Trading Project, has been researching carbon credits for 20 years, hoping to find a way to make the system function. She said: “The implications of this analysis are huge. Companies are using credits to make claims of reducing emissions when most of these credits don’t represent emissions reductions at all.

“Rainforest protection credits are the most common type on the market at the moment. And it’s exploding, so these findings really matter. But these problems are not just limited to this credit type. These problems exist with nearly every kind of credit.

“One strategy to improve the market is to show what the problems are and really force the registries to tighten up their rules so that the market could be trusted. But I’m starting to give up on that. I started studying carbon offsets 20 years ago studying problems with protocols and programs. Here I am, 20 years later having the same conversation. We need an alternative process. The offset market is broken.”


22 posted on 03/30/2023 4:09:53 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Hey DeepStater, "You are NOT the boss of me, or US.")
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To: grundle

Those of us that are old enough remember a cereal company that gave you a deed for one square inch of Alaska.
Bull shiite “Carbon credits are about as valuable.


23 posted on 03/30/2023 4:11:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: Ex-Con777

When we were in the height of mask madness in my blue state, they even had signs on the bike trails imploring people to wear masks.

Not that I would do that.

So, I am riding down the bike trail one day, sunny day, quite windy, and me-maskless.

I see this woman on a bike approaching me, and her bike begins weaving as she frantically tries to put a mask on.

The risk she exposed herself to in those moments on the verge of losing control of her bicycle were exponentially greater than the risk of somehow catching hold of a virus outdoors on a windy day.

I still shake my head thinking of the sheep-like stupidity.

Lots of that going round.


24 posted on 03/30/2023 4:15:43 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: grundle

You mean the scam we all said was a scam turned out to be a scam?


25 posted on 03/30/2023 4:19:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: John Galt's cousin

The graphic toward the end of the article is useful to help understand how the schemes work.

Who is profits and how are they washing the money through the foundations, think tanks, non-profits, and NGOs?

It seems this is an area that could have a lot of what Joe Rogan might call “f**kery” going on.


26 posted on 03/30/2023 4:23:47 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Hey DeepStater, "You are NOT the boss of me, or US.")
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To: grundle

Of course.

What a scam it always has been, but great bait for a virtue signaling fool and their money to be parted.


27 posted on 03/30/2023 4:24:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: grundle

I have been thinking of setting up a carbon offset business.

Somebody sends me a hundred dollars, I will plant a tree, send them a picture. Honest.

It would probably be the only honest carbon offset endeavor in the world. Algore would be enraged.


28 posted on 03/30/2023 4:31:26 AM PDT by odawg
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To: rlmorel

In my county, masks have been optional for over a year now. I’m always maskless when shopping. Too frequently, I see the poor neurotic souls still walking around with masks over their face.

One day, a masked fellow approached me. He asked “Are masks required here?” I told him no, and he ripped his off “Thank GOD!”


29 posted on 03/30/2023 4:32:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Gun laws empower criminals. Guns empower the people.)
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To: grundle

“…the rapidly growing $2 billion VOLUNTARY offsets market”

Buying indulgences was also “voluntary” a few hundred years ago.


30 posted on 03/30/2023 4:36:38 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Ezekiel

Verra’s Offices are in Washiington DC. The Board Chairman is Dr. Tao Yun. The bio states:

“Dr. Tao Yun brings rich experience in the fields of environmental protection, IT, investment, and big data. He worked as a senior manager in multinationals, Chinese state-owned, and public companies. He has also founded multiple start-ups, including co-founding the environmental asset division of Beijing ZBX Group which has built and is maintaining IT infrastructures in 3 of China’s 7 pilot carbon markets. In addition to climate change issues, he is also interested in water usage allowances, garbage permits, and plastic reduction. Tao received his PhD in Ecology from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. “

https://verra.org/board/dr-tao-yun

international experience in these areas is important


31 posted on 03/30/2023 4:51:50 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Hey DeepStater, "You are NOT the boss of me, or US.")
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To: odawg

Excellent idea. Why not set up a non-profit organization to fund the maintenance and protection of the forest?

Put your friends and family on the board. Hire staff to write grant proposals, do fund raising, manage the money, and to care for the tree.

\sarc

;-)


32 posted on 03/30/2023 5:01:50 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (Hey DeepStater, "You are NOT the boss of me, or US.")
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To: grundle

Even if the offsets were real, they’re meaningless as China builds at least 10 coal plants for every one that the West shuts down, and China no longer has to take jack from the West regarding how they operate their country.

Beyond that, and thanks to ‘brilliant’ sanctions policy against Russia, most of the Third World is figuring out what China knows, so all we’re doing is collapsing our (Western) economies, while the rest of the world catches up, and likely surpasses us.


33 posted on 03/30/2023 5:03:51 AM PDT by BobL
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To: grundle

BTTT


34 posted on 03/30/2023 5:06:13 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: djpg

Exactly. It was clear from the start that “carbon offset” was a scam, but a scam willingly entered into by cynical hypocrites like AlGore, Disney, Google, Sierra Club, etc.

Only mindless zombies like The Guardian would be surprised to find this out.


35 posted on 03/30/2023 6:45:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: grundle
Revealed: more than 90% of rainforest carbon offsets by biggest certifier are worthless, analysis shows

Oh, please! No!

Next you'll be telling me that my Confederate dollars are now worthless!

Regards,

36 posted on 03/30/2023 7:05:37 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rlmorel

I was watching the program “Customer Wars” on TV yesterday and they showed videos of people during the pandemic and their reactions to others not wearing a mask. It was both hilarious and disturbing what people are capable of when they have been fed so many lies about the scamdemic. I’m talking flat-out assault on others that weren’t wearing a mask or that weren’t “vaccinated”.


37 posted on 03/30/2023 7:27:19 AM PDT by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: JoJo354

It absolutely breaks my heart to see what terror our institutions (government, health, regulatory, etc.) have decided to voluntarily inflict on vulnerable people.

I admit to having little sympathy for people who aren’t elderly or somehow physically or mentally compromised. Contempt is the dominant feeling I have when I see young people wearing a mask in a car or a store.

But it saddens me to see the panic in the eyes of people who have been fed all this BS and may have good reason to be nervous.

Personally, I was up in southern Maine in a very liberal part of the state (Belfast) and was accosted twice for not wearing a mask when outdoors. In one case, I was sitting in a folding chair reading a book about 10-15 feet on the grass off a paved walking trail, and two women gave me crap about not having a mask.

Unbelievable.


38 posted on 03/30/2023 9:38:09 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: grundle

They are 110% worthless. They are a scam. Called indulgences so that one company like Tesla can sell the credits they get fro electric vehicles from the corrupt gov’t to sell to another company to lower their made up gov’t exposure.


39 posted on 03/30/2023 2:30:52 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Climate change hype.
https://cdn.creators.com/1054/345743/345743_image.jpg


40 posted on 03/30/2023 2:37:33 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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