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Built by an Unknown Culture, This Is The Oldest Sun Observatory in The Americas
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 29 MARCH 2022 | CARLY CASSELLA

Posted on 03/29/2022 6:37:28 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Texas Fossil
Reminds me of the 3 slabs of rock with spiral behind them found in Chaco Canyon, in NM. It predicted precisely the Spring and Fall Equinox (Vernal & Autumnal) and the Solstices (Summer & Winter). Still works. Last I heard it is not possible to see any more, they closed the site because of vandalism.

Partner, these two (2) seasons-the spring and the fall are very important to our farmers since it tells them to start preparing to grow the crops and the autumn is the time to start of harvest time.

Of course, we know that it is the onset of winter.

The farmers these days gave gotten very ingenious by puting in these plastic/permanent covers over their crops to protect them from the ravages of winter.

You can get year around veggies.

21 posted on 03/29/2022 7:35:55 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: Yardstick

Great article!

Most of science is observation. In ancient times this was accomplished with the naked eye. People ALWAYS watched the skies; it’s known that that’s how animals migrate - and know when to migrate - i.e., by positions of the sun and stars. Following animal migrations would make one more aware of the odd, sometimes hidden factors that drive animal behavior.

Someone was bound to figure it out sooner or later!

The first guy who figures it out says, “Here is where the Sun stops its journey and begins to come back - in a few months the plants wills start putting forth shoots. Let’s put some markers here.” Someone fashions a little window so that on that particular day, the sunlight will shine straight through or maybe there already is one. First it’s like a religion and then it’s science - only for those who know about it - and then everyone takes it for granted.

Over the ensuing years the placement of said markers becomes more sure, so that even the average dweller within that civilization becomes aware of things that were formerly hidden. They may not know what the Sun is or where it came from, but they can see easily enough what it does. Over time, more people come along and fill in the blanks of knowledge and we don’t need markers anymore - we know ahead of time what those special dates are. (And they’re still very important, regardless of how advanced our technology gets.)

I almost went on a motorcycle trip to Chaco Canyon once but it fell through and so I have never been there. :( Now it sounds like you can’t go there at all.


22 posted on 03/29/2022 7:37:35 AM PDT by Scarlett156 (I dont go on Discord as the last time I did, the guys spying on me/Mr K were talking about it. (BTW))
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To: TheConservativeTejano

Yes. Agree. And agree that it was very important to know when to plant. And it is now. It does change, year to year.


23 posted on 03/29/2022 7:38:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

“Anasazi”

Yes. the “Ancient Ones”.

I first read about it in a magazine I subscribe to, Science 80.

It was a good mag to begin with, then got off track chasing idiots money and forgot about science. I quit subscribing because of that crap.


24 posted on 03/29/2022 7:40:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Scarlett156

Agree, and well put!


25 posted on 03/29/2022 7:43:31 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Carl Vehse

“how did they previously predict the time of year accurately within two or three days to know where to carefully place and build the towers that would enable them to predict the time of year within two or three days?”

You ask such embarrassing questions!

But it’s a good question. If you knew there was a periodic event how would you go about determing more accurately and repeatedly the point in time of the maximun and minimum of the event?


26 posted on 03/29/2022 7:51:54 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for link.

I looked at same site but did not look carefully at the synonyms.

Our local thieves fit in some of the descriptions.


27 posted on 03/29/2022 7:54:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Openurmind

Star Gazers had it going on
Long before we give them credit.
The “Three Wise Men” still
Fascinate me.


28 posted on 03/29/2022 7:58:21 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (On the Other hand,,, Free Men Choose- - SLAVES OBEY)
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To: Texas Fossil

Our town was relatively graffiti free until the last couple of years and it’s now everywhere, makes our town look like third world trash hole.

Every vacant building or blank wall is a target for these ‘artists’ who think their trash is art and they have a ‘right’ to create it on someone elses property............


29 posted on 03/29/2022 8:01:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

13 towers confused me until
I thought 12 notches for
The signs of the “Zodiac.”
.
That’s a BINGO!


30 posted on 03/29/2022 8:03:27 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (On the Other hand,,, Free Men Choose- - SLAVES OBEY)
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To: Red Badger

Very bad statement of where we are.

I’ve seen it. And it just adds to the induced confusion and chaos the #ComDem’s are using.

This is all about destroying freedom in the world, especially in the USA.

Far worse than the Nazi’s in the 1930’s and 1940’s.


31 posted on 03/29/2022 8:13:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Big Red Badger

“Star Gazers had it going on
Long before we give them credit.”

True... Way back. And structures were not required either. Just a local mountain ridge when standing in the same spot. :)


32 posted on 03/29/2022 8:17:00 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Carl Vehse

Well, I imagine you start out just putting a stick in the ground or something each day lined up with the sunrise. Then after 365 days you notice that the sun is rising in the same place you put the first stick. After that the rest is easy.


33 posted on 03/29/2022 8:22:10 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: moovova

I knew kids like that in school they all turned out to be democrats or inmates.


34 posted on 03/29/2022 8:23:30 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Big Red Badger

They learned from observation.

People who think those who came before us were stupid are terribly wrong.

History of sundials go way back.

https://pwg.gsfc.nasa.gov/stargaze/Sundial.htm


35 posted on 03/29/2022 8:25:03 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Big Red Badger

Now, what is the chance that savages on the other side of the world from the Old World would divide their year into the same number of months as the rest of the world?

If they used a Lunar Month as their divisor, then it’s logical............


36 posted on 03/29/2022 8:32:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Conservation Science - A Virtual Visualization of Chankillo, Peru

Well made video. Answers many of my questions.

37 posted on 03/29/2022 8:34:45 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (It's a failed virus but a hugely successful propaganda campaign.)
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To: Openurmind
Openurmind @ 19: "Near to these are a couple natural straight ridges with outcroppings sticking up and similarly arranged and aligned. I would theorize that previous solar observations of these natural ridges and outcroppings inspired the more accurate man made structure to be built closer to the main complex."

Not only would the natural ridges and outcroppings have had to be just as accurately aligned, but for either the natural or manmade structures, as the article noted, the onlooker has to be at a "specific observation point" for the time of year prediction to be accurate.

It seems implausible that along with some natural, but accurately shaped and positioned, ridges and outcroppings there was coincidentally also a specific natural sunset observation point from which one could obtain an accurate prediction of the time of year (solstices, equinoxes) to within two or three days

And still the question remains - how was this ancient civilization able to know that these natural ridges/outcroppings and observation point were accurate time predictors of an equinox or solstice worthy of duplicating with manmade structures?

38 posted on 03/29/2022 8:47:05 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: Red Badger

“If they used a Lunar Month as their divisor, then it’s logical”

13


39 posted on 03/29/2022 8:54:59 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: Boogieman; Carl Vehse
Well, I imagine you start out just putting a stick in the ground or something each day lined up with the sunrise. Then after 365 days you notice that the sun is rising in the same place you put the first stick.

You can discover all sorts of things that way. Noon, solstice and equinox, calender cycles (eg leap years), radius of the the earth, calendars. Combine it with water clocks, lunar observations, and tide measurements and you can discover all sorts of things to theorize about. Add straight edges and a compass and develop nomograms and slide rules and higher math. All with Stone Age technology.

It’s even an opportunity to develop the scientific method, but that’s a leap.

40 posted on 03/29/2022 8:59:14 AM PDT by no-s (Jabonera, urna, jurado, cartucho ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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