Posted on 10/29/2021 4:17:21 AM PDT by xxqqzz
For the first time since Alec Baldwin accidentally shot one crew member and injured another while filming for Rust, the armourer for the film has spoken out.
Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins passed away on Thursday, October 21, as a result of the incident. The film’s director, Joel Souza was also injured.
Baldwin had not known the gun had live ammunition in it, however the 63-year-old has been subject to extreme online abuse in the wake of the incident.
The set’s armourer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, has now spoken out about the tragedy.
Jason Bowles and Robert Gorence, Gutierrez-Reed’s lawyers said safety was her ‘number one priority on set’ and that she wanted to take the opportunity to ‘address some untruths’, Metro reports.
They said:
Ultimately this set would never have been compromised if live ammo were not introduced. Hannah had no idea where the live rounds came from.
Hannah and the prop master gained control over the guns and she never witnesses anyone shoot live rounds with these guns and nor would she permit that. They were locked up every night and at lunch and there’s no way a single one of them was unaccounted for or being shot by crew members.
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As a manager if two of my subordinates sign off on something as complete I don't view it as my job to go back and perform the steps again myself. I expect they did their job. If Baldwin is handed a pistol that was checked by the armourer and the prop master then why should he have checked it again?
But most of all it meets your paranoid view of the world. I'm mildly surprised you're not blaming this on Abraham Lincoln as well.
Narcissists like Baldwin are incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions.
Yep. If your job includes making a prop gun safe and taking out the trash, you don’t do the second part until you’re done with the first part. If you don’t have time to finish everything, the part you don’t finish needs to be taking out the trash.
She didn't need any help doing that. Her social media had that covered.
When shooting began again, Ms Gutierrez-Reed says she was handed the guns after lunch by prop master Sarah Zachary and then placed three of them on a cart outside the chapel, ready to be used in the scene being filmed inside.
Also, the very first time I heard that someone was taking the guns for target practice was on another forum where someone who was allegedly in a private group for film crew posted the information. I think he said someone working on Rust had shared the information that “the daughter of the prop master” had taken the guns for target practice. Just an unconfirmed rumor though. But it sounds like this prop master had the key to the safe, so she has to be investigated as someone who could’ve led to the live rounds getting in the gun.
None of them did anything right. No set procedures. Guns and ammo left on tables/trays unattended. People using prop weapons for plinking.
I think they’re going to throw Dave Halls under the bus. Middle aged white guy and not a famous actor who’s anti-Trump.
It’s one thing to check if a gun is empty, but an actor would not be expected to know the difference between a live round, a blank and a dummy round. Some of those would need to be checked by removing them from the gun, so, again, an actor would not be expected to have the expertise of unloading and loading a gun.
One thing they might be able to do is test fire a gun that is supposed to be empty or filled with dummy rounds into the ground. This would likely not be part of their official job instructions though. And that might require they and anyone nearby wear earplugs and have a safe spot to point the gun at, in case it fires. So they may not be allowed to do that either. One thing they supposedly are allowed to do is ask the armorer to show them that the gun is loaded or unloaded with the proper material.
Yes, but will this firearms training include how to tell the difference between live rounds, blanks, dummy rounds, and dummy rounds made to look like live rounds.
We’re not talking about safety training on handling a firearm. How is she supposed to know what rounds are what. They never taught that in any NRA class I ever took.
They must have let her off her leash.
You don't have to be paranoid to think there might have been Union skullduggery, you just have to be familiar with the history of Union relations with their employers.
Do you have knowledge of the history of labor Unions? Someone pointed out to me a few days ago that Union violence is exempted from RICO statutes by a Supreme court ruling.
So tell me what you know about the history of labor Unions violence.
Without getting into the weeds of what is or is not in a firearms course, there is enough training available, particularly for those truly interested in the safety of the shooter and those in close proximity.
FWIW, the basic courses I have taken addressed such items as cartridge composition, wad cutters, blank cartridges, snap caps and the like.
I'm pretty sure that procedures can be implemented such that having live ammo present will not result in deaths. Is it the armorers claim that the procedures in place were inadequate to detect the presence of live ammo? That seems to be what is implied here. I think she needs better lawyers.
However, your reply perfectly encapsulates my vision of what kind of person you are.
Not in the least.
However, your reply perfectly encapsulates my vision of what kind of person you are.
I will have to learn to live with your disapproval I guess.
You do if there is no evidence to support your claims.
Those are the CURRENT pictures of the brain-dead chick who was CURRENTLY in charge of all the guns on a Western movie.
Where somebody just got killed.
Blanks and cartridges with projectiles are easy to tell apart, as are dummy rounds, because you don’t prime dummy cartridges. If a grown adult doesn’t know the basics of firearms safety and operation, sh!t I learned at 9 years old, maybe he shouldn’t pretend to be a gunfighter. Much less an elitist gun-banning asshole who publicly mocks people like me, people can actually be handed a gun, and either determine it is safe, or have the humility to put it down and back away.
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