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Floyd was held down for 8 minutes and 46 seconds.
1 posted on 05/29/2020 4:10:59 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Covid killed him.


2 posted on 05/29/2020 4:13:23 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: Morgana

Well the country’s been being destroyed for two ****** days so I’d say they got even.

actually with the destruction it caused at this past forty years and worthless contributions I’d say they much much much more than got even


4 posted on 05/29/2020 4:17:36 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Morgana
Okay, having read the entire thing, I see that he started saying he couldn't breathe while he was still standing. That he apparently went to the ground of his own volition. That he was breathing for the first 5 minutes of the time he was pinned, and then he stopped.

I see that the three officers all realized he had stopped breathing, but did nothing about it. It doesn't seem like his death was entirely due to having the knee on his neck, but it is certainly true that once he stopped breathing, they made no attempt to revive him.

7 posted on 05/29/2020 4:27:41 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Morgana

Could bad blood explain the bad cop’s actions? Remember both men — Floyd and Chauvin — worked security at a nearby club during 2019. Perhaps there was a beef and Chauvin took advantage of his upper hand.


8 posted on 05/29/2020 4:28:40 PM PDT by Blurb2350
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To: Morgana

I’ll go even further.

—welfare, social services, disability going their way
—Afirmative Action
—Quota System
—20,000+ white women raped yearly by the 12%
—whites murdered at disprobortionate rates
—disparative impact legislation
—whitey owes me mentality
—(feel free to add input)

After all this, I’d say they have been paid in full. So much so, they owe everyone else reparations.


10 posted on 05/29/2020 4:29:30 PM PDT by Deepeasttx
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To: Morgana

He stops moving and breathing, they checked for a pulse. AND KEPT HIS KNEE ON HIS NECK FOR ANOTHER TWO MINUTES?????

I predict he’ll cop a plea. If not, guilty in less than 30 minutes deliberation.


12 posted on 05/29/2020 4:30:17 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Morgana

Here is the pyramid of blame/responsibility in Minneapolis!
Plus a common sense summary by: Charlie Daniels:

1. The officers accused of the choking/killing, apparently did it.
2. The police department heads, and their Chief. They are responsible for the environment that lead to the officers believing this was acceptable behavior.
3. The soy boy mayor, Jacob Frey, an uber liberal progressive!
4. The soy boy mayor, Jacob Frey, who selected the Hispanic Chief of Police, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo.
5. The Minneapolis Police Chief, Medaria Arradondo, After Not Giving, his cops, Body Armor, Chief Medaria Arradondo, Said, The Riots were “Too Dangerous For Cops To Stop without body armor!”
6. The voters of Minneapolis. They elected the mayor, who hired the Chief of Police
7. The local mediots on tv and in news papers ignored 1-6 until the riots started.
8. This isn’t even a state issue, much less a fed/gov issue. It is a Minneapolis issue and liberalvoters’ issue. Elections can have serious consequences, life and or death.

9. The good news for Karens in Minneapolis, FR and in America, the cops and rioters are wearing masks and apparently trying to staying 6’ part during the looting and rioting.

10. Minn. soy boy mayor, Jacob Frey gives masks to crowding rioters after warning in-person worship would be a ‘public health disaster’!

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey (D) requested on Thursday that “protesters” in the City of Lakes practice social distancing and wear masks to reduce coronavirus ...

10 a. Grandpa Dave.. forgot to mention..: masks are helping to make sure that any video surveillance footage would NOT allow rioters and looters to be identified thanks to their masks.
The Karens in America are cheering this great leadership. Masks are for everyone!

Cop violence you will not see on ABCNNBCBS:
Equal Opportunity Video Of Black Cop, Violently Choking Young Man Surfaces In Jackson Miss. – MSM Silent As White Cop, George Floyd Video Makes all “The Headlines”!

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2674624239525141

Originally posted on 5/28/2020, 6:23:56 AM by cuban leaf, with a few choice updates.

Summary by: Charlie Daniels: Until America starts electing leaders who are willing to take responsibility for their own actions and the actions of those under their command, there will never be street-level justice in America.


15 posted on 05/29/2020 4:33:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( If the reason you're wearing a mask is to protect me, stay home. If you are sick, stay home!)
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To: Morgana

OMG. This drunk/high bastard was yelling out “I can’t breathe” while he WAS STANDING UP!!!. He was claiming that he was “claustrophobic” and that’s why he was refusing to get in a police car—this was 5 minutes after he was pulled from the driver’s seat of another car. THIS IS WHY YOU WAIT FOR ALL OF THE FACTS TO COME OUT. He did die from being strangled or asphyxiated. He died because he was high on some undisclosed drug. This case against this officer is WEAK beyond belief. Again, two things can be true: Officer Chauvin used excessive force (he did), but his excessive force was NOT the cause of George Floyd’s death.


21 posted on 05/29/2020 4:38:16 PM PDT by bort
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To: Morgana

He was held down when pleading for help. Watch 1000 cop videos and hear the same thing. Most are BS and when one dies it is sickening. I believe this guy like most criminals was in ill health and the police generally do not adhere to sympathy while retraining a suspect and forget most of the oath and code of the force. “Murder” is one of the most complex terms in law and life. As a civilian I would have acted out and probably been arrested for trying to get the guy help. As a cop,I would go against “code” and call out what was happening. I was neither.


23 posted on 05/29/2020 4:40:58 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Morgana
They layed him on the sidewalk after he collapsed and called for medical.

It appears that he had a heart attack due to coronary artery disease, hypertension (possibly untreated) and possible intoxication.

They're going to have a difficult time proving that any of the officers' actions were criminal or contributed to his death.

34 posted on 05/29/2020 4:57:42 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Morgana

If he went to the ground on his own accord why the maneuver to restrain him, especially considering he was already cuffed? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Couple that with the restraint no only held after there was a known difficulty of breathing, but after he was unconscious and had no pulse?!

This is textbook excessive force. When a man is detained his safety is the responsibility of the officers on scene.

Due to their negligence and excessive use of force, the man in their custody died.

These officers are going down, and rightfully so.


44 posted on 05/29/2020 5:31:32 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: Morgana
Re: “No findings support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”

The problem with the case against Chauvin is that many Black males are trained from birth to be lawsuit savvy.

Every day, dozens of Black males tell the Police they “can't breath” or have “claustrophobia” or they intentionally collapse or fall down.

Several statements in the complaint are deliberate attempts to create pre-judgement against the officers.

Specifically - the video “appears” to show George Floyd stopped breathing - Really? I can't see people breathing in a high def video filmed on a professionally lighted sound stage.

Specifically - one officer could not find a wrist pulse - millions of completely healthy people have a barely perceptible or no wrist pulse.

Bottom Line...

Four cops wearing body cams, and onlookers with cell phone cameras, but one of the cops allegedly commits a “dangerous act evincing a depraved mind?”

Sorry - I do not see that on the news videos.

Did Officer Chauvin violate established restraint procedures?

Yes, obviously.

Should Officer Chauvin be fired?

Yes, obviously.

Did Officer Chauvin commit murder.

No, obviously.

51 posted on 05/29/2020 5:46:05 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Morgana
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6933246/Derek-Chauvin-Complaint.pdf

CHAUVIN Derek, COMPLAINT

STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE (excerpt)

The defendant pulled Mr. Floyd out of the passenger side of the squad car at 8:19:38 p.m. and Mr. Floyd went to the ground face down and still handcuffed. Kueng held Mr. Floyd’s back and Lane held his legs. The defendant placed his left knee in the area of Mr. Floyd’s head and neck. Mr. Floyd said, “I can’t breathe” multiple times and repeatedly said, “Mama” and “please,” as well. The defendant and the other two officers stayed in their positions.

The officers said, “You are talking fine” to Mr. Floyd as he continued to move back and forth. Lane asked, “should we roll him on his side?” and the defendant said, “No, staying put where we got him.” Officer Lane said, “I am worried about excited delirium or whatever.” The defendant said, “That’s why we have him on his stomach.” None of the three officers moved from their positions.

BWC video shows Mr. Floyd continue to move and breathe. At 8:24:24, Mr. Floyd stopped moving. At 8:25:31 the video appears to show Mr. Floyd ceasing to breathe or speak. Lane said, “want to roll him on his side.” Kueng checked Mr. Floyd’s right wrist for a pulse and said, “I couldn’t find one.” None of the officers moved from their positions.

At 8:27:24, the defendant removed his knee from Mr. Floyd’s neck. An ambulance and emergency medical personnel arrived, the officers placed Mr. Floyd on a gurney, and the ambulance left the scene. Mr. Floyd was pronounced dead at Hennepin County Medical Center.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26, 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings. The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.

The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.


59 posted on 05/29/2020 5:54:20 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Morgana
http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

5-300 Use of Force

5-301 PURPOSE (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (07/28/16)

A. Sanctity of life and the protection of the public shall be the cornerstones of the MPD’s use of force policy.

B. The purpose of this chapter is to provide all sworn MPD employees with clear and consistent policies and procedures regarding the use of force while engaged in the discharge of their official duties.

(Note: MPD Training Unit Lesson Plans – Use of Force, are used as a reference throughout this chapter.)

5-301.01 POLICY (10/16/02) (08/17/07)

Based on the Fourth Amendment’s “reasonableness” standard, sworn MPD employees shall only use the amount of force that is objectively reasonable in light of the facts and circumstances known to that employee at the time force is used. The force used shall be consistent with current MPD training.

[...]

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

A. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)

B. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)

1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;

2. For life saving purposes, or;

3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.

C. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)

D. After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)

1. After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.

2. An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.


61 posted on 05/29/2020 5:54:49 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Morgana

Yep - knee on his neck/carotid artery for that long - and continued almost 3 minutes after he became unresponsive...


77 posted on 05/30/2020 3:34:52 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Morgana

How do they charge him with murder and manslaughter? I thought only one dude died?


78 posted on 05/30/2020 11:35:30 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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