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To: bagster
I've watched the wanna be medical experts and the real medical experts go back and forth with their 'data' for a while now. It occurs to me that truth lies on the side of the fearbro argument, when you factor in the political, derp state, shadow war component.

I cannot quantify that component. It's subjective. I have no clear path to deriving an objective value from it. It is a piece to a puzzle that will have to wait until more of the larger picture is filled out.

They have motive to lie about the data. We don't.

I don't agree. I see a motive, and that motive is to be on the opposite side of whatever is perceived to be the deep state's desired outcome. It is a motive I readily recognize. It is "contrarianism" in a different form. It is being on the opposite side of someone, merely because they are on a particular side.

Also, the word "lie" is expansive in meaning. You can define it wide, or you can define it narrow. I see much in the way of exaggerations, and some would call these lies, and others would not. Again, subjectivity cannot be quantified because it requires the subjective viewpoint in question.

I have deemed derp data to be false data based on my observations.

I deem it to be possibly false, or possibly true, but not to be accepted as true without other sources of evidence.

You parrot the derp false data and conclusions.

And what false data is that? The number of deaths? I have no doubt that number isn't precise, but I don't believe it to be off more than 10%. It is certainly more accurate than estimates of last year's flu deaths.

And conclusions? What conclusions have I put forth? You see, my official position is "I don't know." I would regard that as the antithesis of a "conclusion."

I am in fact annoyed with people who claim to know anything about this bug with certainty.

I want states to open up. I will be quite safe while other people test the waters, and I very much hope we don't get a massive resurgence of infections and deaths. We need this thing to go away.

But I would caution anyone I love to be cautious until we know more.

And for what it's worth, I was just informed yesterday that my sister may have been exposed to it. Her daughter certainly was, and there is the chance she may have passed it to my sister.

So now this thing becomes a little more than "academic" for me.

208 posted on 04/30/2020 4:17:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
It occurs to me that truth lies on the side of the fearbro argument,

Ooops. I meant to say flubros there.

I don't agree. I see a motive, and that motive is to be on the opposite side of whatever is perceived to be the deep state's desired outcome.

You're being too dismissive. Allow us Flubros the respect of our intellect. Do you think we haven't thought this through? Do you think we are engaging in a petty rhetorical game to win an argument on the internet?

This is no game, sir. There are real life consequences. This is a power struggle between two opposing factions for the future of this country and the world. The outcome of which will determine how our grandchildren will live.

No, this is not a case of routine 'contrarianism'. This is, as Joe Biden might say, a huge Effing deal. More than lives are at stake. Flubros know this.

Also, the word "lie" is expansive in meaning. You can define it wide, or you can define it narrow. I see much in the way of exaggerations, and some would call these lies, and others would not. Again, subjectivity cannot be quantified because it requires the subjective viewpoint in question.

You dither and play semantical word games, as you seek to appear wise. Its time for you to make a decision and advocate for it. Things are happening that will affect you and yours into eternity.


217 posted on 04/30/2020 4:41:57 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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