Posted on 02/24/2020 9:18:47 AM PST by DEPcom
According to exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, the situation may be a lot direr than what the CCP is letting on. Guo has a history of accurately blowing the whistle against his former government.
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Last week, Guo speculated that coronavirus had infected as many as 5 million people in China, with the death toll crossing 200,000.
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200,000 might be a bit much but I think it’s close. What I’ve been seeing on Twitter certainly validates this claim. Also, the gov shut down internet access in Wuhan late last week, so many videos from those on the ground there have stopped.
Is this the way China gets rid of OLD PEOPLE????
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many children, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 year olds are evidently now classified as OLD PEOPLE by the CCP?
He has a pretty sketchy history.
I’m not inclined to trust him.
That article is from over 4 years ago.
That sum was the beginning of last week from his high level friends in China. Since then they sent a bunch of portable incinerators to Wuhan and have burned out two of their permanent ones.
[He’s been predicting the downfall of the Communist Party for a few years.]
This is in fact a recurrent pattern in Chinese history. While the saying about the Chinese word for crisis being similar to the word for opportunity isn’t actually true, Chinese regime changes have certainly revolved around major crises. For most civilizations, the population’s reaction to Four Horsemen-style calamities is to hunker down and grit their teeth through it, pretty much like drones on an ant hill. In China’s case, the internal reaction can be and has periodically been extremely violent. As I’ve noted elsewhere, for 800 out of the last 2200 years, China has been ruled by regimes established by peasant rebels* who went for broke and struck at the throne, while muttering the usual pieties about looking to replace the corrupt courtiers giving the emperor bad advice.
Once they lay their hands on the emperor (or his designated heir), the narrative would evolve. After a suitable interlude during which they held the emperor hostage in all but name, the emperor would abdicate (or disappear), handing over the reins of power to the new regime. The emperor’s and principal courtiers’ kin and acquaintances would be erased from the gene pool, with a body count rising to the tens or hundreds of thousands. That is the worst-case scenario, but a specter that faces Communist Party bigwigs if a latter day rebel strikes at the throne again, and prevails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fang_Xiaoru
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations
Individual revolts generally don’t have a huge chance of success. But China’s history isn’t of individual revolts. It’s of one large-scale failed revolt after another, each hammering away at the resources and loyalties of the regime’s supporters, while offering opportunities for advancement at the expense of the regime. Until the regime runs out of resources and loyal supporters, at which point it is toppled and its adherents and their kin are wiped out in a bloodbath.
The potential for a new cycle of revolts followed by regime collapse is why Xi Jinping worries about this disease, the way he worries about every aspect of Chinese society that might threaten his rule. Whether the rest of the world should be as worried is an open question. At the moment, though, the cure for the disease - drastic quarantines and mass hysteria dwarfing the actual mortality numbers vis-a-vis something like the flu - almost seems worse than the disease itself.
* Prior to the last 2 or 3 centuries, it’s hard to think of any regime outside of China where peasants upended existing regimes. In China, it occurred 2200 years ago, with the establishment of Liu Bang as emperor and the founder of the Han dynasty. Spartacus’s revolt, over a century later, consisted of little more than rabble fighting the organized formations of the Roman army. Liu’s involved hundreds of thousands of trained men in armor going up against the ancien regime’s front line troops. He wasn’t only a charismatic leader - he co-opted large numbers of regime stalwarts to his side during the ebbs and flows of his campaigns throughout the empire. And then made them hand over their personal armies or crushed their revolts once he won power.
I will go with the gut feeling. He has a fight to pick. I will be aware of it and just watch for more credibly data.
They are - they were going to vaccinate their public first. This got out before they were able to do so. To do it now would expose their game, so they’re going to let this play out.
was 100,000 dead prior to 10 days ago and that was just wusan so 200,000 dead is very believable. also note that the wusan area has 49 crematoriums which were going 24/7 doing a reported 270 bodies a day each - the because some of them were likely in need of maintenance, they brought in 40 industrial furnaces - doing 1,200 bodies a day is likely showing they are getting caught up on the piles of uncollected bodies
remember, this is just the normal Chinese seasonal flu - nothing to worry about.
“They had to send in more police, army and medical. Over 1,000 of the original police are infected.”
I saw the video of police loading of planes to fly in. They deployed an additional 20K to Wuhan.
Problem is he is not the only one saying this, there have been others trying to blow the whistle on China. Our own government has publicly stated they do not trust the numbers and are trying to use other on the ground intel to figure out the truth.
Oh, I'm sure it'll be just fine.
of course, the people who said Gau is making outlandish claims against the CCP was .... the CCP.
Gau’s claims are tight in line with a lot of other people making the same claims. But they all must be fibbing ‘cause the CCP is the heart and soul of truthfulness - just ask them about Tiananmen Square ...
My cousin worked with a co. that did business globally. He said Chinese were THE most dishonest, sneaky and dishonorable people on earth.
RE: The potential for a new cycle of revolts followed by regime collapse is why Xi Jinping worries about this disease, the way he worries about every aspect of Chinese society that might threaten his rule.
Xi should have simply honored the 10 year term limits that his predecessors had.
the virus has been going in China for over 3 months - also sanitation is not exactly good, maybe not so good, maybe really terrible, maybe unbelievably horrible.
Covid19 has just reached outside of China in the past few weeks The sanitation is good as are the medical practices with people seeking out western medicine - unlike China were the medicines are expensive (like a week’s wages) and traditional Chinese medicine is cheaper.
We’ll see in a few months if the West fares better.
“Gau’s claims are tight in line with a lot of other people making the same claims.”
PIF we keep crossing paths.. You know things I do not know.
I saw the other people claims, was wondering if they are from the same source not some propaganda machine? I am guessing private source.
To play along...
The biggest downside to a bio weapon is the “boomerang” effect which could be what you’re seeing here. Let’s say China intended to deploy this near Hong Kong to stop the protests and riots. (which have since gone away rather dramatically)
Now, your chosen method of deployment malfunctions in said “ground zero” province and you’re off to the races.
Easily plausible. The only issue is, would China care about their own people? in today’s global economy it seems logical that any boomerang effect would be expected. So in the absence of an existing vaccine for your people, why would you deploy without it?
Unless of course they HAVE vaccinated the people they want. ???
Because in China, unlike in the US, whistle-blowers are, quite openly, imprisoned and executed as spies, saboteurs and traitors in the pay of foreign powers. Or vivisected for organs ...
This is my “conspiracy theory:”
The virus was a Chinese bioweapon targeted against Asians.
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If that was their intention, they failed. Based upon the deaths in Iran and Italy it’s very deadly for non-Asians also.
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