Posted on 12/07/2019 12:56:06 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
“We’d raise our hands and be told, ‘Don’t be naysayers.’ We got strange comments,” one engineer claimed. “It seemed the ship had sailed. After that, if you ask questions, you’re accused of mutiny, so you put your head down and make it work. Good people tried to make it work. But you can’t violate the laws of physics. It’s a mechanical catastrophe.”
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The transmission found in the third-gen Focus and sixth-gen Fiesta.
I had a dual clutch transmission on my 2013 Fiesta. Ford dealer tried to deny the problems I was having.
Luckily I was rear ended and it was totaled.
Thanks for that. I was wondering if it was for the F150.
I believe it. However, the Fiesta ST model, which I own, was offered with only the Getrag manual 6 spieed, and I love it. (Most other driving-oriented parts were soecial-sourced or tuned as well). Only problem with the car I’ve encountered is the front brake pad wear, since the anti-torque-steer differential braking is constantly trying to stop the front wheels from spinning.
Is it true that there are 4 levels of “appointments” in Chevy pickups? I think, probably are. Rumor has it that the tranny in the lower 3 levels starts to slowly disintegrate at around 70K miles, and must go in to the shop for serious work. The top level model, with fanciest appointments, bells and whistles, etc., is the only one with the good tranny.
Ford could teach deny and deflect theory to the CIA.
I would actually be skeptical of any current dual-clutch transmission, especially over the long term, even the new Corvette’s. Much rather have a proven manual or performance automatic.
Dual clutch transmissions are an unnecessary, very expensive transmission, that consumers would not pay for and would not exist without government requirements forcing the car companies to meet fuel standards, that themselves should not exist.
For some reason that escapes me, Ford still thinks they can get away with using components or engineering designs they KNOW will fail is a relatively short period of time. I have a 2012 Mustang that has two of Ford’s “better ideas” and they are absolute design flaws. One is the rear anti-sway bar bushings that won’t last beyond 30k miles, and the other is the water pump setup that will leak no matter what if you ever change the pump. Ford issued a “fix kit” for this problem, but all it really does is slow down the leak. It doesn’t stop it. You will have to add coolant every few weeks or so no matter what. I’m definitely done with Fords. People ask me whay I don’t want to support America and buy American made cars. When they do, I show them Ford’s flagship car, the Mustang.
It isn’t just this DSP6 transmission. Based on fantastic experience with our three Ford Explorers and one Ford Expedition in the 1980s through 2000s, our three kids each bought used Ford Escapes. What a DISASTER that has been for them. One of the Escapes auto transmission was bucking and acting up by 40,000 miles (it had 17,000 on it when purchased). The valve body in the tranny was gunked up with varnish. The dealer accused our daughter of towing heavy trailers in the mountains — she’s never towed anything in her life. Cost her $800 to get it fixed AFTER I called and let them have it. They cut the bill in half.
Our son’s 2018 Escape (bought with about 20k on the clock) had a complete auto transmission failure and the entire unit was replaced under warranty. One day the car stopped on the freeway and that was the end of that.
Our other daughter’s 2012 Escape has had so many failures I can’t count them all. The electric motors driving the cooling fans failed. The throttle body failed and would cause the car to stall as she was pulling away at lights or stop signs. The spark plugs failed.
My 2014 Expedition has had a lot of failures, too, including corroded-out AC lines ($1,400) and a failed track on the sunroof ($3,400). Fortunately the extended warranty covered these but ONLY after I got the dealer to call the warranty company and breathe down their neck. They had told me “No” in both cases before I got the dealer involved.
Ford products have really turned to crap.
I blame CAFE standards on this mess in the auto industry.
I think part of it was impossible to meet federal fleet fuel standards. Trucks and Explorers were hot sellers. Can’t get rid of them. So throw away cars were added to bring the fleet mpg average down even if they were poorly designed.
BTW my daughter’s Focus is on it’s 6th transmission. I call it Ford F^ckedUs.
Automatic transmissions used to be such simple things. Torque converter and planetary gear sets, shifted with governor valves that either upshifted or downshifted, depending on the changing loads on the drive line.
Personally, I would favor a central hydraulic pump driving four hydrostatic slave motors, one on each wheel, a system used in very large industrial machinery. By reversing the flow on the hydrostatic motors, this system could also provide regenerative braking, using a pressurized reservoir.
With a few over-engineered safeguards, couldn’t be more complex than what is being tried now.
my sister actually won a lemon law case from this....$5600 dollars..
file a lemon claim..my sisters was a 2012 focus...they coughed up 5600 dollars..
My brother-in-law has had a company issued truck(Chevy) for years. He gets a new truck about every 2 years or less due to high mileage. His company has had 11 transmissions go out, once again Chevys. They went with all Toyota Tundras this time.
We have had two Escapes in the family. Unmitigated POS. Fortunately they both got wrecked without too much damage to the drivers.
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