I have heard that some RFID fobs can be read and mimicked even if you do not operate them. The thieves query the fobs when you enter a store or restaurant, and they or a confederate can then operate your car with the clone. I believe that metal lined containers can counter this scheme. If you are lucky enough to have an RFID key fob you probably already know this.
But if you manually lock it, the alarm doesn’t activate. At least that’s how my Viper system works.
The real problem is the code is being sent unencrypted because the smart designers obviously didn’t forsee this problem.
Nothing really new. This problem has been going on in Germany for several years. There’s been episodes where guys staked out houses with the expensive cars, and cloned the signal....to steal the car at 1 AM.
I hate to suggest it, but I think within five years...new cars will have to go require a revolving pin number to open the door.
So tell me the advantage of “wi-fi type keys as opposed to a MANUAL lock system and simple kill switch? The novelty of all the new gizmos and gadgets wears away quickly when you see it is more of a detriment than advance . But people are stupid and more than likely feel all warm and fuzzy when their motorized horse chirps and flashes lights when they push a button transmitting their code ......
Really? Snopes approved? Let's find out: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/code-grabbers-remote-keyless-entry/
From the above Snopes article:
However, times change and technology advances. In response to the fixed code security weakness, automakers shifted from RKEs with fixed codes to systems employing rolling random codes. These codes change every time a given RKE system is used to lock or unlock car doors and thus rendered the earlier ‘code grabbers’ ineffective. That form of more robust code system became the industry standard for remote keyless entry systems in the mid-1990s, so automobiles newer than that are not vulnerable to being quickly and easily opened by criminals armed with the first generation of code grabbers.
So relax, nobody is going to steal your code if you use your remote to lock your car.
This nonsense is entirely driven by insurance companies that kick back money to the auto makers to impose stupid security measures to reduce insurance company losses.
They brought us GM’s famous “Pass Lock” system that stranded motorists for years before it was discontinued. Now we get a $300 key fob that costs $3000 to fix if you lose the last one they provide.
Great.
If you have a credit card with a chip thieves can use a similar technique to read your credit card info when you walk by. Use tinfoil around your credit cards or RFID blocking wallet and credit card sleeves. Someone charged $90 for breakfast in Wisconsin and bought something in California at the same time on my card.
One of our kids apartments just had keyless locks installed on the front door. How vulnerable are they, or do these kinds of locks use a different encryption technology?
“Snopes approved”. Now I don’t know what to believe.
Data tracker, homing device, theft enhancer.
All for a mere $4 to $5 hundred dollars.
Gimme back my key!
Was I the only one waiting for the punchline from sodpoodle?
“Snopes Approved”
Which means it is probably fabricated
You can always buy I physical steering wheel lock. I figure the guys with the electronic gizmos are unlikely to have saws and drills.
Designers always overlook the human factor - that humans will break the rules and try to subvert any system that you can invent.
Thank you... good info.
My 2008 Ranger uses a KEY. Problem solved.
I hate thieves.
Advice: Manually lock your doors when exiting your vehicle.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/police-warn-manually-lock-car-doors-to-prevent-key-fob-interference