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Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight
Debka ^ | 7/2/19 | Diane Shalem

Posted on 07/02/2019 3:54:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: debka; debkatatonia; dianeshalem; dumbka; incident; russia; sistermaritatroll; submarines
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To: Viking2002

not a cigar in the closet?


81 posted on 07/02/2019 6:50:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Widget Jr
If an American sub took a Russian torpedo hit I doubt it could get to where it could be scuttled. Vice versa on the Russian boat, ditto. Bumping chubbies has been done several times. Losing a boat happened in the Azores with Scorpion and in the Pacific with a Russian boat. K19 called the Widowmaker was a bad reactor leak that cost Russia some sailors. Either sides boat goes down you lose more than 14. I rode the subs in the 70’s, we chased Ivan and he chased us. Something happened probably, if it’s Russian and in trouble they won’t ask or accept help, at least they never did. If it’s ours they won’t say until family members are notified. Personally I hope it’s BS. Once a squid, I guess always a squid. Oh and Thresher was shake down after a yard period, after that yardbirds road on them out of the dry dock didn’t happen again. 🤔
82 posted on 07/02/2019 6:57:56 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought. ))
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To: LibWhacker

I was once attacked by a Crazy Ivan with a Balkan 2000 torpedo. Fortunately, I was in my 18’ foot Tracker Bass Boat with a very shallow draft and it went right under me and blew up the marina and bait shop. Lucky day for me. I did lose my Yeti cooler in the confuson. USAA took care of the claim.


83 posted on 07/02/2019 7:09:08 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Hope the cooler had a NRA sticker over the Yeti logo. If the bait shop wreckage landed in the water use it like chum any booze floating from the Marina is I believe legal salvage. Very fortunate for you, not so much for the sand crabs.


84 posted on 07/02/2019 7:22:10 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought. ))
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To: Equine1952

My gun collection was in that Yeti.


85 posted on 07/02/2019 7:26:28 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Dang well the Dems can pee on their search warrant. Most unfortunate, all for a fishing trip.


86 posted on 07/02/2019 7:29:53 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought. ))
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To: Lazamataz

87 posted on 07/02/2019 7:31:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: dirtymac

It debeka which means there is a hint of truth and the rest is bs.


88 posted on 07/02/2019 7:32:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: gaijin

Don’t you use capital weapons in land mines in the hopes someone steps on it?


89 posted on 07/02/2019 7:35:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: faithhopecharity

Why do so many dumb assed freepers continue to keep the lie alive that Sarah Palin said anything about seeing Russia from her house?


90 posted on 07/02/2019 7:35:57 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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To: gaijin
That one was a doozy.

Right up there with this one

"According to Brazilian aviation authorities, a commercial aircraft Santiago flight 513 took off from Germany on 4 September 1954 and disappeared somewhere over the Atlantic ocean. It was assumed the plane crashed and all lives were lost. It reappeared allegedly in Porto Alegre Brazil on 12 October 1989 with all aboard skeletonized."

91 posted on 07/02/2019 7:44:44 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: firebrand

Very interesting article, thanks.


92 posted on 07/02/2019 7:54:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: mylife

FoxNews’ story mentions nothing about a US Sub being “scuttled” by the Russkies; just the loss of Russkies.

I don’t know what disinformation to not believe (dbl neg), until all the dust/crap/flies settle-out, and we get some semblance of a truthful story.

But if we weren’t hit, or did we hit them?, why was VP recalled?


93 posted on 07/02/2019 7:56:13 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: LibWhacker
Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries.

Yeah, well Severomorsk--in Far Northern Europe, by Scandinavia--is half-way around the world from Alaska.

94 posted on 07/02/2019 7:56:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Equine1952
Hope the cooler had a NRA sticker over the Yeti logo.

THAT'S what I need to do with our Yeti! We wanted one for the longest time but couldn't really afford it, or put another way, we had better things to spend our money on. Then when we finally popped for a small Yeti, the NRA thing hit six months later and I'm ashamed to take it out in the world with us. But the sticker idea is brilliant, thanks.

95 posted on 07/02/2019 8:07:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Alas Babylon!

And hence were DOA. Great! We can argue we didn’t kill them. Russian incompetence did.


96 posted on 07/02/2019 8:17:03 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Oatka

Wow, hard to top that one..!

(snicker)


97 posted on 07/02/2019 8:30:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Jane Long; CondoleezzaProtege; onyx
:)

She is still around, on Instagram and so forth, getting the best revenge. Living Well ;)

98 posted on 07/02/2019 8:31:16 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Oh course C.P. ;)


99 posted on 07/02/2019 8:35:10 PM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: KC_Lion

I follow her on IG. Bristol, too :-)


100 posted on 07/02/2019 8:36:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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