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After 40,000 Miles with an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, Our Heart Is Broken
Car and Driver ^ | June 27, 2019 | Daniel Pund

Posted on 07/01/2019 3:54:49 PM PDT by C19fan

We knew pretty early in our 14-month relationship with this Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio that we weren't going to be able to make a clean break from it. This was not that kind of relationship. And it is not that kind of car. No, instead we would continue coming back to the Giulia, no matter how it betrayed us. Mostly that's because we were obligated to finish this 40,000-mile test. But we also just couldn't give up on it. Rarely have we hoped for a car in our possession to succeed more than we did for this Alfa. And rarely have we been more consistently disappointed.

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KEYWORDS: alfaromeo; caranddriver; cars; fiat; fixitagaintony; giulia; italian; quadrifoglio
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Money quote:

During its 14 months with us, the Giulia spent 80 days out of commission.

I sometimes watch the Mecum Auctions on tv. Every time there are a few low mileage Maseratis that hit the auction block and sell in the $20 K - $30 K range. I was thinking to myself. WOW I can own this gorgeous car for the same price as a new Honda Accord. Of course, I do some research why a car listed for $80 K new depreciates so much. This article encapsulates the reason. These high end Italian cars look gorgeous and are impressive on the specs sheet but they are absolute maintenance nightmares. A dream car would combine Italian design, German engineering, and Japanese quality controls and reliability. The moniker Fix It Again Tony seems to apply to any Italian car.

1 posted on 07/01/2019 3:54:49 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

People like retro. How much more retro can you get than building poor reliability into Italian cars. Man, JUST like the good old days. Now, you too can have the full experience of owning a beautiful genuine Italian. Warts and all.


2 posted on 07/01/2019 3:57:57 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul.)
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To: C19fan
Here ya go:

HERE q

3 posted on 07/01/2019 4:01:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

FIAT..... Fix It Again, Tony!


4 posted on 07/01/2019 4:03:06 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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To: C19fan

The Alfa story is always the same...only the model changes.
Kind of like dating a stripper.
Loads of excitement until she finds someone richer and leaves you holding the lease.


5 posted on 07/01/2019 4:03:25 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: C19fan

I have heard it said that the only reason to own an Alfa
is if you can afford to support three Alfa mechanics and
their families...


6 posted on 07/01/2019 4:04:10 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: C19fan
I owned an MG Midget back in the 70s. Great car to drive, but horribly unreliable. I finally gave up and sold it. Later, saw another Midget with a bumper sticker that said, "Every part that falls off of this car is of the finest British craftsmanship."

I don't have a need for one, or a place to park it, but a Triumph Spitfire with reliable innards would be awesome.

7 posted on 07/01/2019 4:06:13 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: C19fan

Once upon a time, I bought a Lotus Elan +2S. I picked it up at the factory in England and drove it back to Germany. It was a beautiful car wth burl walnut dash panel, leather seats, and the rest. Under the bonnet, it was a pure Formula Ford racing machine and it drove that way.

It was also a maintenance nightmare. I used to have to take my wife’s paycheck and hand it over to the mechanic. You can imagine how well that went. Broke my heart to see it go, but you know what the choice was.


8 posted on 07/01/2019 4:13:14 PM PDT by centurion316
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“A dream car would combine Italian design, German engineering, and Japanese quality controls and reliability.”

I fell in love with a Lotus (lots of trouble, usually serious) — specificaly a Lotus Exige.

Italian style, Toyota supercharged engine, German ergonomics.

Also so stripped down that it has very little to break.

I track the crap out of it and have never done anything but change the oil (and the brakes and the tires, but that’s because I track the crap out of it).

Great car; mind-blowingly spartan.


9 posted on 07/01/2019 4:14:27 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: C19fan

Alfa are Fiats. As is Chrysler, Maserati, Lancia, and Ferrari.


10 posted on 07/01/2019 4:15:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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What chaps my hide is that the most quintessentially American automobile brand, Jeep, is now a Fiat pig wrapped in a Jeep blanket.

My brother bought a Fiat Spider many Yates ago. Parts were dirt cheap, but you made up for it in volume.


11 posted on 07/01/2019 4:18:09 PM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: C19fan
An oldie, but goodie:

GUIDE TO BUYING EUROPEAN CARS:

NEVER BUY A FRENCH CAR, UNLESS YOU LIVE IN FRANCE

NEVER BUY AN ITALIAN CAR, UNLESS YOU'RE A MECHANIC

NEVER BUY AN ENGLISH CAR, NEVER

ONCE YOU OWN A SAAB, YOU WILL OWN IT FOR LIFE

IF YOU CAN AFFORD A BMW, BUY A MERCEDEZ

12 posted on 07/01/2019 4:18:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (California: knowingly give someone aids: misdemeanor. Give them a straw, go to jail.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Just don’t drive it in the rain. Or snow. Or through a mud puddle.

We had a ‘75 Spitfire, and the electronics (Lucas) were the worst.


13 posted on 07/01/2019 4:19:44 PM PDT by SelmaLee (MAGA!)
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To: Richard Kimball

My aunt supposedly still has her Triumph TR6 and being restored.


14 posted on 07/01/2019 4:21:15 PM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as intwerchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: Sparticus

I have Willys and American Motors.


15 posted on 07/01/2019 4:22:18 PM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as intwerchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: centurion316

See post 9. Toyota engine.


16 posted on 07/01/2019 4:22:22 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Richard Kimball

I don’t have a need for one, or a place to park it, but a Triumph Spitfire with reliable innards would be awesome.
*********
It’s called a Miata.


17 posted on 07/01/2019 4:22:27 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (There's a Tesla owner born every minute.)
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To: C19fan
Our Heart Is Broken

You had to fall in love with the car before it could break your heart. It's 2019. How many new cars can you fall in love with?

18 posted on 07/01/2019 4:23:50 PM PDT by TChad
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To: SelmaLee
We had a ‘75 Spitfire, and the electronics (Lucas) were the worst.

Joseph Lucas, the Prince of Darkness!

19 posted on 07/01/2019 4:31:01 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Phinneous
FIAT..... Fix It Again, Tony!

Many, many years ago there was commercial where a guy takes his car into a foreign car shop and asks how long the repair will take. The answer was "four months and you gotta leava da car".

20 posted on 07/01/2019 4:31:48 PM PDT by Stentor
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