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Decade in the Red:Trump Tax figures
NY Times ^ | May, 7, 2019 | Russ Buettner

Posted on 05/07/2019 4:12:43 PM PDT by luv2ski

By the time his master-of-the-universe memoir “Trump: The Art of the Deal” hit bookstores in 1987, Donald J. Trump was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals, according to previously unrevealed figures from his federal income tax returns.

Mr. Trump was propelled to the presidency, in part, by a self-spun narrative of business success and of setbacks triumphantly overcome. He has attributed his first run of reversals and bankruptcies to the recession that took hold in 1990. But 10 years of tax information obtained by The New York Times paints a different, and far bleaker, picture of his deal-making abilities and financial condition.

The data — printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, with the figures from his federal tax form, the 1040, for the years 1985 to 1994 — represents the fullest and most detailed look to date at the president’s taxes, information he has kept from public view. Though the information does not cover the tax years at the center of an escalating battle between the Trump administration and Congress, it traces the most tumultuous chapter in a long business career — an era of fevered acquisition and spectacular collapse.

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: broke; potus; thebestpeople; trump
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To: luv2ski

let me see! Last two years of really building this country back up or 30 year old tax returns? hmmmmm

I don’t care. Thanks for the past two years and I look forward to many many more.

Is it possible to repeal the 22nd Amendment only temporarily so DJT could do 3 terms and then immediately reinstate


41 posted on 05/07/2019 5:38:22 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country! Now)
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The IRS is infested with Rats. I saw more then a few pics of IRS staff who had Obongo stickers on their monitors. I have been expecting leaks. I’m guessing the tax returns the Rats are crying about actually make Trump look good or they would have shown up in the NYT already.


42 posted on 05/07/2019 5:47:02 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: luv2ski
Even Warren Buffett makes bad deals:

-In 2014 he lost $444 million on his Tesco (a UK Supermarket chain) deal
-He lost $3.5 billion on the Dexter Shoe deal
-He lost $875 million on Energy Futures Holdings
-$800 million in losses on his purchase of General Reinsurance company

Warren Buffett's 15 biggest regrets

43 posted on 05/07/2019 5:48:43 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: luv2ski

Didn’t Hillary just call on “China”to do this very thing?


44 posted on 05/07/2019 5:49:47 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (Breathes there a man with soul so dead...)
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To: luv2ski

I failed in a business... it didn’t kill me, and I emerged stronger.


45 posted on 05/07/2019 5:50:31 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: luv2ski
Trump's golf course portfolio is valued at $2-2.5 billion. Trump owns 16 of his 17 world class golf courses free and clear. It's just one portion of his wealth.

30 year tax returns, in the years following the worst stock market crash in history. Ridiculous.

46 posted on 05/07/2019 5:59:52 PM PDT by Stealth Ninja
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To: Sacajaweau
Of course. Nobody is perfect and few businesses make profits every year. And the tax code often forces certain maneuvers, for example the requirements to amortize and depreciate have an impact on profits and taxes, regardless of cash flow.

Real estate in particular is tricky - it is not like making widgets where you can scale to meet demand, close-out excess inventory, drive efficiencies through volume sales and purchases and production output. The up/down cycles in the RE business extend out for years... years of value appreciation, and then years of depreciation. When building from scratch or renovating a property, there are great expenses and a lot of time; and if the timing goes against you by the time the project is finished you may not be able to realize a profit for years, if at all. If you're lucky you can generate enough cash flow to make interest payments.

Here is one great example. Around 2006 Deutch Bank put up nearly $800 million in loans to finance a condominium project on the Las Vegas Strip. The towers went up just in time for the 2008 Real Estate crash. Prices plummeted and there was no way the developer would be able to sell the condos and make a profit on the development. The developer defaulted, Deutch Bank took possession of the property and spent another $4 billion to turn it from condos into a hotel/casino that became The Cosmopolitan Las Vegas.

DB eventually sold the hotel for $1.7 billion - a total $3.1 billion loss for one single property. Trump is not as wealthy as Warren Buffett, and doesn't have the same access to capital as an international investment bank. As wealthy as he is, one bad deal like that would give a developer the size of Trump net operating loss carryovers for many, many years. He could make $300 million a year in profit for the next decade and never pay a dime in taxes because of that one loss. And we already know by the portion of his tax return that was illegally leaked to the press, he had at least one sour deal that did in fact give him something like $900 million in loss carryovers.

47 posted on 05/07/2019 6:12:13 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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This is as compelling as the NYT revealing secret tapes of a bear pooping and eating in the woods for the last ten years. He had turbulent times and got into some bad investments where he ran up serious losses. Then he legally did what any other investor in a similar situation would do—he legally wrote off those losses against other gains and, thus, ended up paying no Federal Income Tax for a number of years. Like, duh, big deal; it’s the same thing many of us, myself included, have legally done and will continue to do. If he hadn’t done it, he’d have bee a total nitwit.


48 posted on 05/07/2019 6:18:03 PM PDT by libstripper (A)
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To: luv2ski

Releasing private tax information is a serious crime. Someone should go to jail for both leaking it to the NYT and for the NYT publishing it.


49 posted on 05/07/2019 6:32:04 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: monkeyshine

Thank you for your post on Warren Buffet regrets. Bump for reference


50 posted on 05/07/2019 6:38:25 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: luv2ski

Do you have any Idea how much of a failure Abraham Lincoln was for 30 years?
Multiple Failed businesses that NEVER turned profitable, lost EVERY election and won because power that be wanted someone else to be holding the bag of the war they engineered which slaughtered more Americans in war than all the other wars combined TO THIS DAY.


51 posted on 05/07/2019 7:20:26 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

I want to be clear I didn’t post this b/c I was concerned about failed business deals. I posted it b/c I am furious that a private citizen would have extremely private information made public without their permission. I could care less about his business deals. He is the best President since Reagan.


52 posted on 05/07/2019 7:32:52 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Innovative

1985-94? Might as well be 1885-94.


53 posted on 05/07/2019 7:42:48 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: luv2ski

Did he come up with any schemes to steer Hundreds of Millions of TAXPAYER Dollars and Government Contracts to His Family Business?? Fineswine, Piglosi??


54 posted on 05/07/2019 7:52:58 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: luv2ski

Who gives a crap


55 posted on 05/07/2019 8:31:27 PM PDT by Conserv
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To: luv2ski
Who leaked Trumps book to the NYT's?....


56 posted on 05/07/2019 10:56:31 PM PDT by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime." - Donald J. Trump)
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Ok. Then he doesn’t have to release them


57 posted on 05/07/2019 11:59:02 PM PDT by deek69
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To: luv2ski

Sounds like great experience preparing Trump for running a country in 22 trillion dollars in debt.


58 posted on 05/08/2019 12:15:10 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: luv2ski

The Left...ALL of them, are VILE, EVIL, VICIOUS LYING DESTROYERS of good people!


59 posted on 05/08/2019 1:44:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kommodor

You noticed that too, huh? As the ladies say, #GameOver


60 posted on 05/08/2019 6:41:37 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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