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Food for thought: Why did we ever start farming?
EurekAlert! ^ | April 2, 2019 | University of Connecticut

Posted on 04/06/2019 11:55:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv

Agriculture is more labor-intensive than hunting?? I would think that the return on effort expended is much higher for farming.


41 posted on 04/07/2019 6:10:22 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How about the harpoon and that ingenious device that increases the distance and force that a spear can be thrown? How was that invented? Amazing!
42 posted on 04/07/2019 6:19:23 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Our ancestors had 200cc more brain volume ten thousand years ago on average vs today.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is an interesting factoid. So....It seems we’ve grown stupider over the generations.


43 posted on 04/07/2019 6:22:11 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hunter-gatherer only really works for a nomadic people. If you put down roots scarcity will spread.


44 posted on 04/07/2019 6:28:49 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: Vendome
Encrusting them in corn meal and frying it in bacon grease in a cast iron skillet.

There. Fixed it. ;o)

45 posted on 04/07/2019 6:31:57 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: SunkenCiv

The reason people started farming is that children like flowers and planted them near the house where they were allowed to go. Then their parents noticed there was food right nearby.

Written by someone who planted okra because the plants are beautiful but thinks okra is one of the slimy things those boys used to gross each other out with.


46 posted on 04/07/2019 6:37:38 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: SunkenCiv
As I understand it in North America, Hunter-gathering was not a continual process of wandering but was semi-nomadic.

A tribe had multiple locations in an area that it would rotate through.

They would set up camp at a suitable location_A and begin hunting and fishing until the area became depleted at which point they would relocate to a fresh location_B and repeat the process. Eventually they would move back to location_A.

This movement from one camp location to another often followed a seasonal pattern.

My guess is agriculture began not long after the people learned how to use fire as a grassland management tool. They would set fire to a grassland and after the fire scatter whatever seeds they had available around to await the rains.

47 posted on 04/07/2019 7:35:50 AM PDT by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv
BEER!
48 posted on 04/07/2019 7:40:03 AM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: fso301

“Until the area became depleted”

So, they were democrats?


49 posted on 04/07/2019 7:40:48 AM PDT by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: IronJack

Back in the early days they did both.
Farm and hunt..gather.


50 posted on 04/07/2019 7:43:13 AM PDT by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: SunkenCiv

He did this by analyzing animal bones from the last 13,000 years”

Not strictly true, apparently...

“the bone records showed a shift from diets rich in water fowl and large fishes to subsistence on smaller shellfish.”

Either he was analyzing shell data all along, or the shell data is being tacked on at the end of his analysis.


51 posted on 04/07/2019 7:45:21 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“forests composed of those species began to dominate the region as the climate warmed, but also led to decreasing water levels in lakes and wetlands.”

1. The climate warmed without any human inputs.

2. The warming climate led to lower water levels.

So, hypothetical warming-induced sea level rise is counterbalanced by lake and wetland sinking? Interesting to take note of.


52 posted on 04/07/2019 7:50:31 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Farming allows the former hunters & gatherers more time to sitting around the campfire discussing diversity, racism and wymen’s studies.


53 posted on 04/07/2019 7:55:16 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Sirius Lee

LOL


54 posted on 04/07/2019 7:55:41 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

lol

Were there govt subsidies for the fruits?


55 posted on 04/07/2019 7:56:13 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: Leep
So, they were democrats?

Yes. That they lived a sustainable lifestyle in harmony with nature is a modern fiction.

56 posted on 04/07/2019 8:00:39 AM PDT by fso301
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To: canuck_conservative

How about this. Men hunt, women gather. This requires a nomadic lifestyle because game and stuff gathered begins to run out after a passage of time. So you have to move several days walk away.

But a good place to live will be close to a water supply and for the most part good places will always be good places. So in the course of a lifetime, the same place might be be used several times by the group.

When camp is set up people will use one spot or spots as a common toilet and garbage dump. Some clever person will remember that where the toilet was the last time the camp was there, there’s a lot of food to be gathered, since many seeds pass through the digestive system untouched. The next step, actually planting seeds and hanging around long enough to see them produce food is a big one.

Although agriculture and animal husbandry are more labor-intensive, they do produce a much bigger food supply, which allows for a larger human population in one area than hunting gathering. And of course there’s beer.


57 posted on 04/07/2019 8:12:03 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: captain_dave

There must have been an ancient and relatively high civilization during the last Ice Age that was catastrophically destroyed. That civilization developed farming, bread making, domesticated livestock, dogs, and cheetahs. That civilization is now covered by 300 to 400 feet of ocean.


And more.

The comet strike theory has been gaining more and more credence for ending the last ice age and starting the Younger Dryas. As for the putative civilization, Gobekli Tepe find is perhaps just the start of discovering what once was, since it was built around the time of the last strike.


58 posted on 04/07/2019 8:31:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I can imagine one of two ways. First of all, after eating food with indigestible large seeds, like gourds in the Americas. Or noticing that very seed heavy plants, like Amaranth, that would lose many grains while harvesting, would have more plants around them the next season. Amaranth also contains an uncommon but essential amino acid and many minerals.


59 posted on 04/07/2019 8:46:20 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Desperate swarm sewage drains for water..." Venezuelans or D.C. Swamp denizens?)
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To: super7man

Thnx!!!!


60 posted on 04/07/2019 8:52:38 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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