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Ethiopian flight 302: second new Boeing 737 to crash in four months
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Posted on 03/10/2019 1:35:43 PM PDT by springwater13

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You might want to think twice about taking a flight on Boeing's new 737 MAX. 2 fatal crashes in less than 4 months on a plane with known software issues....
1 posted on 03/10/2019 1:35:43 PM PDT by springwater13
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I hate flying. I can’t imagine what these people experienced in the last moments of their lives.


2 posted on 03/10/2019 1:37:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Prayers for all. How sad.

#92,284 not to fly.


3 posted on 03/10/2019 1:40:23 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.)
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To: springwater13

Who were the pilots in each case?


4 posted on 03/10/2019 1:40:28 PM PDT by Stingray51
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second new Boeing 737 to crash in four months


5 posted on 03/10/2019 1:42:45 PM PDT by montag813 ("This is Montag, Block 813...")
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I thought that Boeing issued instructions how to disable this feature with a flick of a switch after the first crash?


6 posted on 03/10/2019 1:44:23 PM PDT by shotgun
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I reserve judgement until the facts are known. It may have nothing to do with the plane itself.

That being said, I will most certainly try to avoid that model for now.


7 posted on 03/10/2019 1:46:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (We are in the midst of a Cold Civil War.)
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Guess they didn’t tell them which switch and where it was.


8 posted on 03/10/2019 1:53:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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[Flight data showed erratic climbs and descents ]

When I see reports of similar, it always makes me think “flight control surfaces”. One that comes to mind suffered a detachment of an elevator, IIRC. (one critical attachment of an elevator).

Guess we’ll find out.


9 posted on 03/10/2019 2:02:07 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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I wasn’t in to their music but I watched that video a couple of days ago for laughs. I like the donuts and the car - they were nice touches.


10 posted on 03/10/2019 2:03:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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[I hate flying. I can’t imagine what these people experienced in the last moments of their lives.]


I expect terror but not much pain. At that speed, they’re dead before the pain receptors kick in.


11 posted on 03/10/2019 2:05:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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It’s a terrible way to die.


12 posted on 03/10/2019 2:05:51 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I rode a Southwest MAX 8 yesterday BOS-DEN, very nice and it didn’t crash.

Mine had huge life rafts in the ceiling. Must be getting close to ETOPS certification for HNL.


13 posted on 03/10/2019 2:09:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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Who keeps putting “braking” in the keywords?

Someone from DU?


14 posted on 03/10/2019 2:14:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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I do wonder if anyone was singing this song on the way down Then again doubtful
15 posted on 03/10/2019 2:15:26 PM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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Braking news!


16 posted on 03/10/2019 2:16:11 PM PDT by nascarnation
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It must be somebody trying to make FR look bad.

I’ve seen it a dozen times.

Funny pic though.


17 posted on 03/10/2019 2:16:59 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Software glitch. Planes have been incredibly safe for decades. If it ain’t broke...


18 posted on 03/10/2019 2:17:33 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Jim Noble
I rode a Southwest MAX 8 yesterday BOS-DEN, very nice and it didn’t crash.

Mine had huge life rafts in the ceiling. Must be getting close to ETOPS certification for HNL.

The FAA has already awarded ETOPS certification to Southwest. The flights have been added to Southwest's reservation system.

http://bigislandnow.com/2019/02/27/southwest-airlines-gains-official-authorization-for-hawaii-flights/

19 posted on 03/10/2019 2:20:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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[If it ain’t broke...]

I generally agree.

There have been a few where there were surprises. A couple of guys forgot to turn off the autothrottle system which had idled the engines. They could not get the power they needed.

In another one, OTOH, the starboard thrust reverser deployed just after takeoff and the aircraft rolled right.

In that case, the software reacted properly, idling the starboard engine. The co-pilot, shocked by the idling, kept pushing the starboard thrust to max. The software fought back, idling the starboard engine again. On the 3rd attempt, it broke the cable used by the software. The aircraft rolled right, unrecoverable, and into the ground.

Of course he had no idea the starboard thrust reverser had deployed in error.


20 posted on 03/10/2019 2:25:52 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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