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“The Next Best Thing To Hell”: The Story Of The Worst Mass Execution In American History
All that is interesting ^ | Published September 27, 2018 Updated January 30, 2019 | By Brandon Weber

Posted on 03/05/2019 3:48:00 AM PST by vannrox

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To: Sa-teef

“...and the 1,000 to 2,000 mostly unarmed settlers ...”

Democrats still want to keep us disarmed.


41 posted on 03/05/2019 6:22:01 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus" maneo)
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To: vannrox
I get really sick of this “poor indigenous” people crap. The Indians were no worse or no better that any other group of people. Some were war like people who attacked and made slaves of others. They were not innocent victims and gave as much as they got. Their main problem was “THEY LOST”. The Indian of today enjoys benefits the rest of us pay for because they were born Indians. I admire some of the traits of native Americans but see no more nobility than any other race.
I have worked with native Americans who told me the best decision they ever made was leaving the reservation life and start depending on their own abilities!!!
42 posted on 03/05/2019 6:26:01 AM PST by ontap
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To: vannrox
The Chinese executions areSTILL happening...

Christians being killed?

What was her 'offense'?


43 posted on 03/05/2019 6:29:04 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!.)
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To: vannrox

Brandon Weber is a communist......enough said!!!!


44 posted on 03/05/2019 6:33:48 AM PST by ontap
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To: vannrox
War and conquest are brutal businesses.

All those people, the guilty and the innocent, have been dead now for over 100 years. There is nobody left to blame or offer sympathy to.

45 posted on 03/05/2019 6:34:08 AM PST by dead (Our next president is going to be sooooo boring.)
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To: vannrox

I have to ask: Who’s country was it in the first place?


46 posted on 03/05/2019 6:45:36 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Have you read the text on his homepage?”

That guy’s brain is a bag full of cats.


47 posted on 03/05/2019 6:45:45 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: vannrox

I have to ask: Who’s country was it in the first place?


48 posted on 03/05/2019 6:45:45 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Carl Vehse

BINGO Buddy. The whites routinely violated and ignored many a treaty, cheated, and starved women and children. By the many thousands.

Some native Americans were primarily simple nomadic gatherers. Peaceful and without suspicion.

Probably most were tribal and warlike with most anyone. No commerce or state system to mitigate the fury. Throat slitters that could match/outclass the worst of todays moslem throat slitters.

All pale when matched up against the fine blades of todays abortionists. The Slice and Dice of pure innocence is the worst blood letting this continent has ever seen. Is some accounting ever to be required?

John Brown is smoldering.


49 posted on 03/05/2019 6:46:19 AM PST by whistleduck (arpoon)
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To: SkyDancer

Seems no one is certain. Inhabited at various times from points north/south/and west. Vikings even a possibility in the far northeast. Beats me.


50 posted on 03/05/2019 6:50:48 AM PST by whistleduck (arpoon)
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To: whistleduck

Yeah, read a lot of history of the early years of the US; some of it shameful. The Trail of Tears comes to mind as one.


51 posted on 03/05/2019 6:52:37 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

What is the point of understanding history? Because what has happened will happen again. What is happening to the West happened to India Centuries ago. What China is doing they did to Tibet, and they will do here.


52 posted on 03/05/2019 6:59:09 AM PST by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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To: vannrox
This chapter of Americana always fascinated me. What comes through is how naive the settlers were. Many if not most were just off the boat from Sweden, Norway, Germany etc...farmers/dirt scratchers, Woefully unarmed and/or unskilled in their use. And this right smack dab in the middle of one of the most absolute warlike and vicious of all American Indian tribes.

Used to have a neighbor lady who grew up in Acton, MN. She related how as kids on Halloween night they would visit the massacre memorial and it scared the living shit out of them.


53 posted on 03/05/2019 7:11:04 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus" maneo)
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To: dp0622

Didn’t read article.

However, when we read: “The Indians had their all their land taken” it must be put in context...

Were these agricultural lands? No. These were not “Indian farms” that were “taken”...

Lincoln later made it a point to discuss with the various chiefs that the bulwark of civilization was agriculture and that they must stop being nomadic hunter-gatherers if their cultures were to survive.


54 posted on 03/05/2019 7:13:14 AM PST by Sontagged ("The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork." -Psalm 19:1)
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To: vannrox

This is a really awful case. Firstly, corrupt agents of the US government took money the US government was obligated to pay for food for the upkeep of the tribes on their reservations to line their own pockets. The treaty had called for the Dakota to receive these supplies in exchange for their land. Thus the tribes were literally starving. Lincoln refused to pay the tribes money they were owed under the treaty with which they could have bought food. Not surprisingly this enraged them and they lashed out at White settlers. There were several atrocities committed against the White settlers beyond any doubt.

The Federal army put down the uprising.....then just grabbed any Dakota around and claimed they had committed the atrocities against the settlers without any proof that the individuals grabbed by the Army actually had. After complete sham trials that lasted on average TEN MINUTES each and frequently without even having translators present, surprise surprise, they were convicted. Lincoln knee this was a complete sham but the White settlers in Minnesota were (understandably) pissed and wanted blood. Not wanting to lose votes, Lincoln allowed 38 of the death sentences to be carried out thus making him the only POTUS in history to order a mass e execution.

Then the whole tribe was rounded up and sent away to another reservation where the US government deliberately starved them again. Then they finally released them further West but made sure to do so after planting season so they’d starve yet again.

For good measure, the US government rounded up the nearby Winnebago who had not even participated in the uprising and ethnically cleansed them too.

Then members of the Lincoln administration were able to use their connections to snap up land the Indians had been ethnically cleansed from at bargain basement prices and flip them for huge profits.

I’d recommend reading 38 Nooses which is an excellent book about this. There was also a BBC documentary called Lincoln:Saint or Sinner which went into detail about this shameful episode.


55 posted on 03/05/2019 7:16:42 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: vannrox

We forget the times this happened. It was believed that the tribes were instigated to rebel by CONFEDERATE AGENTS working through Canada. Even the Navajos were armed and inspired to rebel due to Utah mormons with southern leanings.

All along the High Plains, from Canada to Mexico many of the tribes chose the Confederate states as their new ally over the Union.

Captain Eugene Ware found quite a few Confederate agents, mostly Indians from the Oklahoma tribes instigating the plains tribes to war.
It got so bad that Union troops had to be pulled from fighting in the deep South to fight Indians. Two men of Black Kettle’s band, captured at Sand Creek, had been in the Confederate army and were believed to be agents to keep the tribe fighting the next year.


56 posted on 03/05/2019 7:23:33 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kartographer

It doesn’t even hold a candle to the (first) massacre at Waco.


57 posted on 03/05/2019 7:27:02 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Kartographer

It doesn’t even hold a candle to the (first) massacre at Waco.


58 posted on 03/05/2019 7:27:02 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: Nicojones

Books that influenced me to begin reading non PC history were..
MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by Dunn Jr
The Indian War of 1864 by Capt Eugene Ware
ON THE BORDER WITH CROOK by Bourke.

Along with many of the personal accounts of the Mountain Men at that time.


59 posted on 03/05/2019 7:28:59 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: FLT-bird
"I’d recommend reading 38 Nooses which is an excellent book about this...."

Based on your narrative I seriously doubt it.

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The Sioux were savages who got in the way of the western expansion. They displaced the Ojibwa in many parts of Southern Minnesota by their raiding parties and cold blooded murder. It is the way of the world snowflake. They were nomadic and historically moved from place to place with some agriculture but primarily hunter/gatherers.

My great grandparents and their children paid for their land by the sweat of their brow; no handouts to immigrants back then. You worked very hard, raised a family and saved every little bit that you could. I won't be apologizing for their hard work and frugal lifestyles.

My grandmother on my mothers side hated the Sioux. In the late summer and early fall groups of them would wander through Lyon County in Southern Minnesota, not looking for work but for anything they could steal. They would see my grandfather out in the field with his dog and they would sneak into the farmstead, stealing clothes off the clothesline and making a mess of her garden. That was in the 1890's when they could ill-afford it, but they managed through their own hard work.

150 years after their murderous rampage in 1862 against farmers who did them no harm the Sioux still refuse to adapt to the reality of America, parked out in South Dakota on reservation lands living off whatever the government will give them for free. I have no sympathy for folks who refuse to get an education and find productive work. Sittin' on the Rez' is a dead end. Make something of yourself and quit your b#tchin'.

60 posted on 03/05/2019 8:15:58 AM PST by Sa-teef
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