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Low T Centers: Asking for a Friend

Posted on 02/27/2019 9:01:57 AM PST by far sider

What do you all think? Are these men's health clinics helpful or are they a racket?

I have a friend who wants to know.


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To: far sider

I suggest men stay away from testosterone supplementation. AndroGel, the largest producer of pharmaceutical testosterone, is in settlement discussions with more than 4000 injured plaintiffs (heart attacks, strokes and DVTs). This after having lost 3 lawsuits, one of which was for $150 million.


21 posted on 02/27/2019 9:22:45 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: DungeonMaster
I loathe those advertisements.
You and me both! "Hey guys, it's Sue Kozner, sexual health expert on men's performance in the bedroom!" Every ten minutes.
22 posted on 02/27/2019 9:23:21 AM PST by Blurb2350
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To: far sider

I highly recommend the Robert Kraft diet.


23 posted on 02/27/2019 9:23:24 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: far sider

Some will take the idea of ‘repair or supplement’ as far as the customer is willing to go. There may be recommendations of cialis, viagra that increase blood flow. For those who prefer more drastic methods in order ‘to be sure’, there are surgical implants that can be activated ‘as needed’.

My personal view if you think something has got to change?; Pills before Drills.


24 posted on 02/27/2019 9:23:29 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Blurb2350
You and me both! "Hey guys, it's Sue Kozner, sexual health expert on men's performance in the bedroom!" Every ten minutes.

"Don't change that dial, that's a mistake".

They have even got one with some girl using a bedroom voice. Then there is that whole fake warning about accidently "over performing". I sure miss the days when drug companies could not advertise, it was between you and your doctor. Doctors are just Candymen now with very little input.

25 posted on 02/27/2019 9:26:41 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Believing lies gets you killed by a lion {God} in the bible.)
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To: dsrtsage

Yes, but the wrong kinds. Soy products contain phytoestrogen compounds, hence the term ‘soy boys’. Not good if you are suffering from low T. Cut out as much soy as possible, and it’s in everything. Eat high zinc foods, oily fish, red meat and start an exercise program which includes exercises that increase muscle mass.


26 posted on 02/27/2019 9:28:47 AM PST by redangus
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To: far sider

Affective for radio hosts, advertisers and the manufacturers.


27 posted on 02/27/2019 9:29:42 AM PST by coaster123 (Bring back the curtsy. - If one is alive one is privileged.)
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To: bk1000; far sider
My doctor told me that if I started using testosterone gel that I would need to continue forever. If I stopped, the crash would be unbearable. He said it was for extreme cases only, not just for a “boost”. OTC testosterone boosters are basically snake oil. Get in the gym and lift some heavy things instead.

I can vouch for this post. My doctor said I had very low T for 57 and recommended I take testosterone. He said the benefits would be over all feeling better, better mood, sex drive boost, weight loss, improved stamina and potential hair growth on my head. I started with the cream, this is nasty stuff and you have to be very careful not to transfer it to your wife. I then tried the patch, but did not like it ether. Then I went to the needle with two injections a week. That's using a 1 1/5" needle that you jab completely into your leg. At first, they way overshoot my needs and it was hard on my wife. Then we got my level about right. The only benefit I saw was an increased sex life. After about a year, I decided I wanted to stop. My doctor recommended I cut my dose in half, but his office screwed-up and I did not get a refill for two weeks. Being as I had been without for almost 2 weeks, I decided to quit cold turkey on my own. There were a few rough days in all of that, but I survived it. Now it's been 3 or 4 months and I have no residual effects other then a loss of sex drive. For me it is not worth it, it is very difficult on the way up and on the way down on this stuff.
28 posted on 02/27/2019 9:32:24 AM PST by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Well said. At 61 years of age my highest reading was tested at 427. As a former college and professional athlete, I tried testosterone therapy. Made amazing gains in the gym over 3 to 4 months and my body composition changed significantly. However the side effects too extreme. Terrible anxiety attacks and emotional issues. Stopped the therapy with NO regrets...God intends for men to age gracefully, lose testosterone so that Grandpa is not an unmanageable patriarch with the libido of a seventeen-year-old.


29 posted on 02/27/2019 9:33:48 AM PST by Maranatha7757
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To: far sider
If your friend has, or is likely to get prostate cancer DON'T DO IT! My urologist recently told me:

"Testosterone treatments are like throwing gasoline on a fire, when it comes to prostate cancer. It severely increases the risk."

There's that, and a friend of mine's father had a stroke a heart attack and died after undergoing testosterone treatment theropy.

Did it "work"? Yeah, his libido and energy was great ...until it KILLED HIM!

30 posted on 02/27/2019 9:36:46 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Artemis Webb

For sure though. I’m 46 years old and started eating LEAN red meat at least once a day a few years ago. It did wonders for my mood and energy level almost immediately.
Prior, I was a big pasta and cheese eater. I eat lots of pasta still (I am from an Italian family), but with huge meatballs piled on top now.
Also, my cholesterol and blood pressure is perfect.
As for the gun, I have several; Looking for a Winchester 94 to plink with kids currently.


31 posted on 02/27/2019 9:42:25 AM PST by Jim Pelosi
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To: far sider

Truly medical low T is a serious condition, if you suffer from it it is a huge quality of life issue... and I am not talking about your libido. Things like, motivation, concentration, mental fog, physical strength and overall fatigue/tired can all be symptoms of low T.

If you truly are suffering from it, you’ll know... and its a life changer. Sadly these clinics largely just sell it as a fountain of youth to anyone with insecurities about aging....

There are risks, once on therapy, you can wind up sterile even once you are off... If you get your levels too high, your blood thickens and you raise your risk for stroke etc... and too much and you can wind up with breasts... as your body will start to convert the excessive testosterone into estrogen, baldness can occur as well... since your body is getting testosterone externally, your testicles will shrink, etc etc...

Sadly most of these clinics are just looking to make a buck, and preying on insecurities.


32 posted on 02/27/2019 9:43:05 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: far sider

Find a doctor who uses BioTE hormone pellets. You’ll get a thorough blood work up that focuses on hormones, thyroid, Vitamin D,and a lot more. The results determine which hormones you need and how much. Cost for men is $500-600. You’ll also have a supplement regimen that will probably include iodine, Vitamins A,D, and K.


33 posted on 02/27/2019 9:43:13 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: Jmouse007

See post 32, his doctor wasn’t watching his bloodwork.. too much testoerone thickens the blood leading to high blood pressure and stroke/heart attack..

If you truly have medical low T you aren’t taking it because of libido issues...


34 posted on 02/27/2019 9:45:30 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Maranatha7757

“Stopped the therapy with NO regrets...God intends for men to age gracefully, lose testosterone so that Grandpa is not an unmanageable patriarch with the libido of a seventeen-year-old.”

Wise words. To everything there is a season.


35 posted on 02/27/2019 9:48:51 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Sparky1776
"I highly recommend the Robert Kraft diet."

I google "Robert Kraft diet" and it brought up an article that Robert Kraft was soliciting prostitutes.

I suppose that evidence his diet works but couldn't find anything about the diet itself.

36 posted on 02/27/2019 9:49:09 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: spokeshave

“I have a friend who as a senior was denied a PSA test by Kaiser.....so he went to one of those clinics and got a PDA test for $95.
Test came out a little high (15)

So started taking Saw Palmetto

Got 2 more (free) follow up PSA tests and last one was low single digit (no pun intended)”

This is interesting. My PSA number is rather high for my age, and the doc wants me to get a prostate biopsy. I have no symptoms whatsoever. I may try that supplement going forward.


37 posted on 02/27/2019 9:49:38 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: dsrtsage

WHAT KIND OF HORMONES?


38 posted on 02/27/2019 9:51:11 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: far sider

Go to the gym 3 times a week and with free weights perform dead lifts, squats, dips, bench, and pull ups. Problem solved. I’ve been doing that for years now. It’s not hard, just make it part of your routine. In between sets like now I read freerepublic on my iPad. Yes, I am posting this from the gym. Lol


39 posted on 02/27/2019 9:52:04 AM PST by Darth Gill
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To: Mr. K

What’s the difference between a Vitamin and a Hormone?

You can’t make a Vita min.


40 posted on 02/27/2019 9:52:28 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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