Women may have to register for the draft as federal judge (T)

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[TigerClaws]

U.S. District Judge Gray Miller ruled late on Friday that although historical restrictions on women serving in combat 'may have justified past discrimination,' men and women are now equally able to fight.

Restrictions for women in military service were lifted by the Pentagon in 2015.

The ruling could see and end to the Selective Service System which was upheld in the Supreme Court in 1981.

[Chainmail]

Safe bet the Coward Lobby would show up for this thread.

Particularly funny to hear from somebody calling him/herself Southern Rock using terms like "misandric tradcon" - might as well hang a sign on yourself saying "willing to serve as hostage in time of war".

Gutless weenies.

[SecAmndmt]

Not a fan of Selective Service. We don’t need a draft for legitimate, constitutionally declared wars. No way I want mine going to Iraq, for example. If Congress doesn’t have the balls to actually declare war, then they don’t get to demand national service.

As to a rite of passage, why should the federal government determine that, and not family and church?

[Chainmail]

But you don’t have daughters, do you? At least, not any you love.

[BlackAdderess]

Like my mom, actually.

[Chainmail]

"un unh they will say and get away with it."

If you had any real experience in combat, you'd insist on keeping the ladies out of it. Last thing on earth you need is distractions/weak links.

I am really sick of putative "conservatives" whining about being men. I thought all of the antimilitary service types were limited to the Lefties.

[I want the USA back]

Long overdue. Since they have all women colleges, and all women facilities, then in fairness they must register for the draft. Tough cookies, cookie.

[Chainmail]

So war's for everybody but you, right? I heartily wish that you and your ilk will have to serve in combat and have some plump little thing protecting your flank during some night attack.

Then, I'd love to hear your opinion.

[Reno89519]

Long overdue.

[Spktyr]

Not that I agree or disagree with your point per se, but this seems to be a good point to drop this in. Here’s a “plump little thing” humping (as in carrying and shooting) a variety of heavy WW1 machine guns, including big-arsed watercooled pieces in a walking fire test and not doing significantly worse than the average guy in the group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ryJaj3mPw

[Lurkinanloomin]

They want equality, they have to take equal responsibility.
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I registered.
Women should too.

[PAR35]

Start by drafting the Vietnam era women who didn’t have to register - an affirmative action/reparations draft for aging feminists. Then ship them to Afghanistan.

[Chainmail]

Neat video but hardly proof that the average woman is well-suited for direct combat - or even carrying a Lewis gun or a Chauchat or a BAR or an MG08 for someone who is in combat.

Combat is about long patrols is hard conditions, staring into the dark intently to try see them before they throw a grenade into your fighting hole. It's about long times without sleep, carrying more than your body weight in helmet and armor, ammunition, water, and any extras.

Combat is about killing someone else without hesitation and it's about seeing people killed and maimed around you.

I would know. 17 months in combat and nearly a year in the hospital recovering afterward.

The "plump little things" are the average females we receive in the service and they usually form the group of stragglers far in the rear of the morning runs (accompanied by some grinning male Staff NCO).

[Chainmail]

You may have registered but you sure as hell never served in combat - or you would never say anything that stupid.

[Lurkinanloomin]

If they want equality, they must take responsibility.
I never suggested they should serve in combat.

[the_individual2014]

MGTOW, lol.

[SuperLuminal]

Chicoms panicking at the news...

[SamAdams76]

Whenever there is a big snowstorm around here, all the feminists must go undercover. That’s because only the men are ever out there shoveling the snow.

[rlmorel]

I am astonished and disheartened by many of the posts I see on here. It makes me angry to see people getting on board with women in combat for vindictive purposes (I had to do it, they should too, that'll show em) lack of knowledge about the demands of combat (it's a push button war, nobody has hump 70 lbs 20 miles over mountainous terrain anymore) or social experimentation (women deserve a chance to hold prestigious commands too)

I have never been in combat. Thank God. But I know enough from talking to vets and reading their stories that combat, real combat, produces a mind-numbing, unbelievably fatiguing, muscle burning, physical toll that is not replicated in sports and physical fitness.

Men, especially young men, have an innate physical advantage over women that women cannot overcome: a naturally produced steroid, testosterone. A lot of men today may be overweight slugs not used to physical activity, and there may be more women today who exercise more vigorously and move into the lower levels of comparative strength.

I created this graph I created to show the point on which it all primarily hinges, and the fact that what this graph displays has effects on everything from unit morale to logistics and unit readiness/capability:

The graph above compares average male physical capability and body structure as compared to average women. The red hatched area is the the physical area where the negatives from a PHYSICAL perspective (This ignores and does not include logistical and morale based issues completely) the DISADVANTAGES of allowing females into combat units outweighs the positives. (Note, the only positives in my mind in any case no matter what are Politically Correct based positives, there are no operational positives of any kind. This only displays the physical negatives.)

All the assumptions above the graph after the word "NOTE:" are medically studied and accepted from mainstream medical sources. It starts with the basic premise that the strongest woman is 25% weaker than the strongest man (at best, some say the difference is closer to 30-35%) and goes from there. There are two other assumptions I have made: the curve with the average male strength is broader than the overlapping curve with the average female strength, because I believe that across the male gender, physical strength is innately more broadly distributed by nature than it is withe females, simply due to the production of testosterone in our bodies.

Check out this article, written by a female Marine. It is VERY well written and unsparing.

Women in Combat - The Question of Standards

This single passage from her article says it all...this is the money passage from her article:

"...Meanwhile, the argument to maintain the combat exclusion makes itself easily in every aspect...including women in combat units is bad for combat, bad for women, bad for men, bad for children, and bad for the country. The argument for the combat exclusion is provable all the time, every time. Political correctness has no chance against Nature. Her victories are staring us in the face at all times. The men just keep being able to lift more and to run faster, harder, and longer with more weight on their backs while suffering fewer injuries. They just keep never getting pregnant. The combat units have needs that women cannot meet. Women have needs that life in a combat unit cannot accommodate without accepting significant disadvantage and much greater expense. Where 99 percent of men can do the heavy-lifting tasks typical of gunners, but 85 percent of women cannot, there is no gap women need to fill..."

That pretty much sums it up.

Eventually, we will end up fighting an enemy who is going to be evenly matched with us, we are going to lose, because they cannot be stupid enough to follow the path we have. And when it happens, the people who will scream the loudest in protest, are going to be the successors to the people who made this all happen, since they will likely be kicking back somewhere, comfortable in their Monday morning armchairs, talking about how it wasn't the emasculation of the military combat units that caused this, it was that we didn't spend enough time, money, and effort to make it work.

[LexBaird]

Hey, here’s an idea! Instead of drafting women, the judge should consider that drafting anyone is the very definition of involuntary servitude.

[southern rock]

MGTOW- going Gault for men, aka turning this franchise around!