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Female soldier says she can “whoop any Marine,” gets knocked out by infantry Marine
usmclife.com ^ | January 22, 2019

Posted on 01/25/2019 7:46:34 AM PST by lowbridge

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161 posted on 01/25/2019 10:30:07 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: ifinnegan

Men don’t hit ladies. A woman who demands to fight a man has lost her status of “lady”.

For example, if I was ever physically attacked by a group of inner-city ferals, I would respond about the same, regardless of their sex or sexual identity. To do otherwise might mean my serious injury.


162 posted on 01/25/2019 10:35:49 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: rlmorel
A military planner doesn't design a task that only 20% of males between the ages of 18 and 45 can do, they design it so that everyone in that MOS can perform it, and then they make sure people are up to the task.

That may be the cases in training scenarios. Actual war is different.

In actual war, the side which has the most people able to do the most difficult challenges, is more likely to win. The side which is unable to match or beat their opponents' capabilities, will die.

163 posted on 01/25/2019 10:40:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s a scene in an episode of “The 100” where a skinny chick who just learned to handle a sword takes out 20 battle hardened males in less than 2 minutes. Now that’s absurd!


164 posted on 01/25/2019 10:47:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PapaBear3625

You are 100% correct. I am not talking about war, I am only talking about how they would devise resources needed for a task, and training people in that task, which would translate into a wartime portion of a mission.

We all know that once a fist hits you in the face, all the planning goes out the door.

How the scenarios translate (This is just my opinion) is that if, in a combat situation, you need to pour 60 rounds per hour. from a gun that has to be fed by a single soldier hand carrying munitions over 20 yards of terrain at the rate of one per minute, but the person on that crew carrying can only do only do 1 round every two minutes and tires out completely and is unable to perform after 10 min at half the rate, a fire support mission is going to fail, and the soldiers on the other end depending on it may fail as well, resulting in injury, death, loss of engagement, battle, and war.

And that doesn’t even take into account ALL the other things outside of task above, hand to hand combat, or anything else with a high dependence on physical exertion.


165 posted on 01/25/2019 10:51:19 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: lowbridge

This girl forgot the first rule of martial arts - no matter how good you think you are, there is someone out there who can beat you.


166 posted on 01/25/2019 10:52:37 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Yo-Yo

True, good point, but I am not sure about 40%...when I made the curve, I used the medically accepted information in black as assumptions laid out, but the actual amplitude and width of the curves might be different.

I just used the bell shaped curve for men, then added the assumption that the width of the curve for women’s strength is going to be narrower simply due to biology...that is it won’t be the same shape as the mens curve, since most men have the advantage of testosterone to give us strength, where women will only be able to achieve a similar distribution if they all worked out extensively...which they won’t, since guys don’t either.

I guess the point is, the areas under the curve that you might have used to get 40% might just be invalidated by taking things even beyond my final assumption (one assumption too far...but your point about the additional area is correct!)


167 posted on 01/25/2019 11:03:24 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: NorthMountain

My greater concern is for the man who did the punching and the men who egged them on. I can’t think of anything much more that destroys the best in a man. I hate what our military has become.


168 posted on 01/25/2019 11:07:22 AM PST by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Persevero
I hate what our military has become.

It has become a place where delusional women are convinced that they can run with the big dogs, and then get upset when reality destroys their fantasy. Don't blame the man who introduced her to reality. He may have saved her life. She'll proceed through her military career with a more realistic understanding of her capabilities. OTOH, he refrained from killing her. He also refrained from capturing her, torturing her, raping her, and having all his buddies rape her. I mention that last, because the current enemy are mohammedans and they do that sort of thing.

I wonder: do you know why we have an Army (etc.)? Do you know what their function is?

169 posted on 01/25/2019 11:14:33 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Liberals always treat the military as the largest Government Social Program there is.


170 posted on 01/25/2019 11:15:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NorthMountain

This boxing match thing was humane. They should show this to any Congress-idiot that thinks a front-line infantry unit should be female.

All this guy did was bang her head around a little. An enemy combatant is going to do so much worse. They will be morale gear, and so much worse.

So stupid. I think women have a place in the combat military. Front line isn’t that place. Sniper, pilot, even tanker.


171 posted on 01/25/2019 11:17:10 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: lowbridge

I suspect the basis of her challenge was decent success getting nasty in bars with civilian males most or all of whom probably wouldn’t want anything to do with her. In the ring she was too incompetent not to say helpless to have based her big mouth talk on actual combat with a willing guy.


172 posted on 01/25/2019 11:18:08 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: dfwgator
the military as the largest Government Social Program there is.

Yes ... and I give "liberals" no benefit of the doubt. Not after decades of their insanity. They know perfectly well that their programs are in every way possible destructive to the military.

173 posted on 01/25/2019 11:20:59 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: rlmorel

Thing is, he whupped her ass. Whoop is a holler.


174 posted on 01/25/2019 11:22:37 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.Huff)
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To: sparklite2

Holler is a dark, secluded, densely wooded, small stream valley up in the mountains.

Rev’nooers go in, but they never come back out.


175 posted on 01/25/2019 11:25:05 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I think women have a place in the combat military. Front line isn’t that place. Sniper, pilot, even tanker.

For pilot, a woman may be able to do the job, right up to the point where she gets shot down and has to perform "escape and evasion".

For sniper, the Russians were able to use women as snipers in defensive positions back in WW2. If she needs to infiltrate enemy areas, carrying all her gear, that's a whole different story.

For tanker, she might be able to drive it, but will be totally useless the moment field maintenance is needed on some heavy component. How many women have the strength to even change their own car's tires, including loosening the lug nuts? A woman would be challenged in working as loader, as tank rounds weigh close to 50 pounds, and she needs to be able to quickly grab one from the magazine and load it into the breach. How many women could keep up with doing that in battle?

176 posted on 01/25/2019 11:30:30 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: sparklite2

Heh, a “holler”! I have heard of opening a can of “Whoop ass”!


177 posted on 01/25/2019 11:30:39 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel

Hmm. You’re right. Googling whup, though, it is defined as utterly defeating somebody.


178 posted on 01/25/2019 11:36:26 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.Huff)
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To: lowbridge

Several posters have stated that it was wrong for a man to do this.
How about we do a little of “read between the lines”?

First, this fight could not have taken place without the expressed permission of the CO. That’s important because the CO would understand the PR downsides of having this fight and would not allowed it frivolously.

So, I’m betting we have a loud mouthed and entitled “feminist”. Probably not well liked by most of the personnel, male or female.

Likely she pushed this to the point by loud mouthing and badgering until so many got sick of her, the CO was OK to sign off on it.

It also may have been considered a “teaching moment” regarding this leftist BS that women are physically as capable as men on the battlefield. That’s not a little thing - lives are at stake.

My point is that this didn’t occur in a vacuum. There’s much more to the background that we will not get.


179 posted on 01/25/2019 11:42:45 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: sparklite2

“You say “whup”, I say “whoop”, let’s knock the loudmouth out!”


180 posted on 01/25/2019 11:46:54 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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