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To: TEXOKIE; KittenClaws; ransomnote; Cats Pajamas; greeneyes; bagster; generally; Wneighbor; ...
You know, I'm visiting with an old friend this weekend. Haven't seen this cat in 8 years, but is one of my very best friends.

We were both working in downtown Boston on 9/11. We saw the initial news reports... We watched the 2nd plane hit the tower... We were together to gather his Wife from her office and make our way and hour north, towards home.

We talked about how much disbelief we experienced (Normalcy bias) as we watched what happened - live!

I'm not certain you can go from 0-to-60 on some of this stuff. It will need to filter out slowly.

1,049 posted on 12/09/2018 3:04:50 PM PST by USMC79to83
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Wow. I had forgotten about that part. Also the feeling of knowing the country was under attack but no idea of the scope or scale of the attack. Sheeesh.


1,052 posted on 12/09/2018 3:08:10 PM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: USMC79to83; ransomnote; Steven W.; greeneyes; TEXOKIE; txhurl; saywhatagain; Swordmaker; MNDude; ...

Excellent point.

Another factor to consider: When we are focused on the immediate situation and protecting our loved ones, we are not stopping to consider the cause of the emergency. We are so focused on rescue, escape, figuring out what to do next, figuring out what to do if the emergency hits closer to home. Almost no one is stopping and saying “Gee, I wonder who planned this and why.”

Also there is the sucker punch factor. If you’ve ever been hit hard and swiftly and unexpectedly, the immediate reaction can be fight or flight, but it can also be freeze. A person can be so flabbergasted at the bolt out of the blue that he is just too dazed to react.

Doesn’t have to be a physical punch. It can be a shocking emotional jolt or surprising revelation. Imagine suddenly being told out of the blue that your spouse is cheating or your dad is not your real dad or some other completely unsuspected piece of info. For most of us, disbelief would be the first reaction. Yeah if we already suspected that would be different. Then we’d be asking for more info. But if there had not been a whiff of suspicion, the first reaction would be shock, disbelief, then probably an attempt to deny/disprove it - kind of like the Q trolls, eh?


1,084 posted on 12/09/2018 3:41:01 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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news reports... We watched the 2nd plane hit the tower... We were together to gather his Wife from her office and make our way and hour north, towards home.
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A woman from Haverhill, MA was killed that day, on the first plane.


1,098 posted on 12/09/2018 4:05:51 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: USMC79to83; ransomnote; Cats Pajamas; greeneyes; bagster; generally; Wneighbor; mairdie; ...

You know, I’m visiting with an old friend this weekend. Haven’t seen this cat in 8 years, but is one of my very best friends.
We were both working in downtown Boston on 9/11. We saw the initial news reports... We watched the 2nd plane hit the tower... We were together to gather his Wife from her office and make our way and hour north, towards home.

We talked about how much disbelief we experienced (Normalcy bias) as we watched what happened - live!

I’m not certain you can go from 0-to-60 on some of this stuff. It will need to filter out slowly.

1,049 posted on 12/9/2018, 5:04:50 PM by USMC79to83
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What a story! Oh Marine, so very well said!

In addition to what you have said - “that difficult info should be metered”- people have the need and the RIGHT for different sized filter mesh. Each should be allowed and supported to go at their own pace of assimilation.

A few months ago, a proven Q Patriot on our threads was being harried for not immediately going along with the thread consensus that certain Q targeted people under discussion were evil.

This Q Patriot was treated as a troll. Hurtful things were said to the hold-out being dumb - or even somewhat evil him/herself for still desiring to hold the vision of that Q targeted person as being one of worth, as though by holding a positive view of that individual’s character, our thread member was somehow throwing in with the Q targeted person. Why do we think it is our job to judge what a person decides to hold as an opinion? Why do we think it makes us look smarter to be the one to puncture someone’s opinion with harsh words without reason? Do we really think that is a persuasive technique? It is unfair to do that to someone.

I think so many people have a habit of exercising extreme criticism. They have such a momentum on it, that it is my opinion that they do not even realize how they come across. Unjust criticism is highly toxic, and all of us, I think, should try to exercise care in the words we say - especially when all we have here on the forum to communicate with are ONLY the words, with no facial expression or tone of voice to indicate if what is being said is as stark as the words alone seem.

All of that is to say, the Patriot in question who refused to buy the idea that the “bad” person being discussed in the Q drops was evil, actually HAD A RIGHT TO TAKE HIS/HER TIME to come around - if ever - to the prevailing consensus. NONE of us likes being pushed or nagged. It took me many years to understand that certain things reported about events which are related to 9/11 were not as I had understood them to be. I’m glad I had that time to make that adjustment.

I offer this only as food for thought, and believe me, I chew this particular cud for myself as well. If I ever transgress in that way, and express hypercriticism or dismissal of someone’s opinion, I do hope that you will PM me so that I may apologize.


1,176 posted on 12/09/2018 6:46:24 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: USMC79to83

We were both working in downtown Boston on 9/11. We saw the initial news reports... We watched the 2nd plane hit the tower... We were together to gather his Wife from her office and make our way and hour north, towards home.
We talked about how much disbelief we experienced (Normalcy bias) as we watched what happened - live!
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I was napping with the TV on, and woke up just after the first plane. My initial thought was some small aircraft. I was watching when the second plane hit. I had no disbelief what so ever.

When the buildings went down, I remember thinking that looked just like the demolition of the building I watched in St. Louis a few years earlier. I heard police talking about hearing bombs going off as they warned people to get back.

A year later, I woke up one morning thinking why did building 7 go down? I did some digging, the guy who had just contracted with the Port Authority for WTC about 6 months earlier made out like a bandit - he was a friend of David Rockefeller, who helped him get financing.

I read the Commission Report and did a lot of research. I believe someone with a lot to gain helped the planes bring down the towers. Trump stated then, and I believe him to be correct, that most likely there were bombs involved, that it was hard to believe that planes alone could have done it. POTUS has lots of experience with constructing such buildings.


1,196 posted on 12/09/2018 7:09:04 PM PST by greeneyes
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