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Temperatures in the summer of 536 fell 1.5°C to 2.5°C, initiating the coldest decade in the past 2300 years. Snow fell that summer in China; crops failed; people starved. The Irish chronicles record "a failure of bread from the years 536–539."


It's not global warming but global cooling that will get you.

1 posted on 11/16/2018 6:12:12 AM PST by artichokegrower
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It's not global warming but global cooling that will get you.

Never understood the big concern about warming. There's plenty of land for us to inhabit, even if the pabulum about rising sea levels was true. Warmth means extended growing seasons and habitability in northern latitudes. Cold means death from famine.

The liberals are the personification of what happens when you dumb down the education system.

38 posted on 11/16/2018 7:20:04 AM PST by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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Yep. Every time the temperature fell, people died.

When temperatures rise, life explodes. It’s been true ever since the Cambrian.

If you like life, you should like global warming.

If you don’t like living things, ban the essential plant nutrient, carbon dioxide, cripple the plants, starve the animals, and glaze everything over with ice.

Your call...


41 posted on 11/16/2018 7:30:19 AM PST by null and void (Those who make change through the vote impossible make changes by force inevitable)
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It’s not global warming but global cooling that will get you.

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I think the lesson is we need some global warming to act as a safety margin against volcanic eruptions.


42 posted on 11/16/2018 7:31:33 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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Ask medieval historian Michael McCormick what year was the worst to be alive, and he's got an answer: "536." Not 1918, when the flu killed 50 million to 100 million people, mostly young adults.

1918 was medieval times?

43 posted on 11/16/2018 7:32:17 AM PST by Trump20162020
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The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?
46 posted on 11/16/2018 8:03:18 AM PST by blam
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Just an over-view of what and where was what in the former Roman Empire at that time. I think that if I were living then and I was surrounded by the relics of Rome but with almost all of the trade destroyed, no stability and almost constant local wars but nothing conclusive and then having crop failures exceeding ancestral memories ... yep, I’d be quite discouraged!

In England, this is the estimated time of legendary King Arthur fighting the Angles & Saxons as a defender of the native Celtic Britons. [Angles, Saxons, Frisians and Danes probably ‘pushed’ by others.] Wales is completing a conversion to Christianity started under Roman times. Ireland is becoming a center for Celtic Christianity following St.Patrick’s efforts in the 400s because it is the most distant from a roiling Europe. Scotland gets its name from Irish invaders of that name moving over the then native Picts.

The Atlantic shore of Europe has become chaotic with the former Roman Empire & Germania awash from the waves of steppe barbarian invasions (Vandals, Alans and Suevi) with the Franks starting to dominate in the south above Visigothic Hispania. Also native Celtic Britons move across the English Channel to what is now Brittany (modern France) which remains independent of the Franks.

The Ostrogoths ruled in Italy and Dalmatia but will be defeated at war with the Franks and Byzantium within this century. Eastern Rome (Byzantium) remains under continuous ‘Roman’ rule but looks to reconquer the lost west while also resisting more barbarians in the Balkans and a continuous war with Persia/Iran as their MAJOR equal military adversary.

Add in a real mix of expanding Christianity BUT lots of flavors (heretical) from Arianism to Insular Celtic to Monophysitism. The principal power of ‘organized’ Christianity lies with Byzantium and the Patriarchs of Constantinople, Antioch & Alexandria. The Pope of Rome is respected but has little international power until the end of the 500s with Gregory the Great.


47 posted on 11/16/2018 8:03:50 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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With global warming plants grow faster... with global cooling people in 3rd world hellholes will starve. If most of ‘em can’t figure out how to prosper in good times - they damn well won’t know how to deal with real (out of their control) bad times.


52 posted on 11/16/2018 8:21:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Watch this for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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Actually, the worst was 2009.


53 posted on 11/16/2018 8:21:51 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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FYI...

TXnMA
 

54 posted on 11/16/2018 8:25:36 AM PST by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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This is why European kings repealed catalytic converter regulations in 540.


63 posted on 11/16/2018 9:19:33 AM PST by fruser1
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I was going with the disco era as being the worst time to be alive in human history


72 posted on 11/16/2018 11:05:09 AM PST by Hammerhead
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——an aerosol veil ——

Not a greenhouse cloud that captured reflective radiationbut an aerosol veil that prevented sunlight from penetrating

This will require some thought but at the outset it seems like causitive attribution to suit the hypothesis


75 posted on 11/16/2018 11:11:18 AM PST by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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Temperatures in the summer of 536 fell 1.5°C to 2.5°C,

That's about 1100 or 1200 years before the invention of the thermometer...........Wonder how they recorded it.

83 posted on 11/16/2018 11:50:41 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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“An 72-meter ice core drilled in the Colle Gnifetti Glacier in the Swiss Alps entombs more”

Is that a dodecahedron? Dumb question, I fear, but why isn’t it a cylinder?


90 posted on 11/16/2018 1:16:13 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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L. Sprague DeCamp wrote an alternate history novel in 1939, “Lest Darkness Fall”, the classic of the genre, which begins when historian Martin Padway is hurled back to the Rome of 535 AD by an errant lightningbolt.....


101 posted on 11/16/2018 5:23:14 PM PST by skepsel (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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I like history. Civil War. Maybe I could be a professor, or something.


102 posted on 11/16/2018 5:42:25 PM PST by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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If only I could go back to the year 536 and know what I no now.


118 posted on 11/17/2018 7:30:42 AM PST by Leep (we need a Trump like leader for President 2024!)
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"Ah, yes, I remember it well. It was my very first election, and we didn't have the printing press yet, so we had
to vote by putting clams into baskets. (And it wasn't easy to sneak clams out of one basket, into another basket,
let me tell you!)"

"537 wasn't too great either!"


131 posted on 11/18/2018 1:34:44 PM PST by Songcraft
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