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Another Ebonics article. Too hard to ask African-Americans learn proper English? By the same whites with strong southern accents face the same issues north of the Mason-Dixon line.

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Rickford recommended that writing teachers in American schools teach BVE speakers “the linguistics of both [BVE] and standard English, instead of outlawing the vernacular and attempting to standardize language.”

Bilingual education for blacks. /src on/That is the ticket to increase test scores./src off/

1 posted on 09/21/2018 11:07:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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If you sound like a dumbass... you probably are.


2 posted on 09/21/2018 11:09:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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3 posted on 09/21/2018 11:10:37 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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4 posted on 09/21/2018 11:10:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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> the way African-Americans speak

That’s racist!


5 posted on 09/21/2018 11:11:08 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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liberals say blacks are too dumb to speak correctly and must be pandered to. The silent bigotry of lowered expectations. But blacks keep voting Dem, no matter what! Maybe they will see the light.


6 posted on 09/21/2018 11:12:15 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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Joe Biden likes his blacks, ‘clean and articulate’.


7 posted on 09/21/2018 11:15:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I’ve been in places where two urban language speakers were talking to each other, and could not understand a word. It’s amazing that they can understand it. It’s like a whole new dialect.


8 posted on 09/21/2018 11:16:29 AM PDT by lurk
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If the HR folks can’t understand what you say they will not be inclined to favor your application over others by people who can speak understandably.


9 posted on 09/21/2018 11:16:42 AM PDT by arthurus (b)
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The three most intelligent black guys I knew all spoke perfect English, other than the one that liked to josh us now and then by pretending to go ghetto..


11 posted on 09/21/2018 11:19:17 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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Duh, guess that “Prof” got a Captain Obvious degree from the university of high school dropouts.


14 posted on 09/21/2018 11:25:13 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Professor Rickford says “Black Vernacular English” is viewed as less “trustworthy, intelligent and well-educated” than so-called (?) standard “white” English.......” Are obvious observations like this how you become a professor?


15 posted on 09/21/2018 11:25:35 AM PDT by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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If you watch British television, you see that British blacks speak with British or Caribbean accents, not ‘black’ accents. First time I noticed this was during the 60s when the UN ambassador from Ghana spoke. Close your eyes and you heard an English accent.


16 posted on 09/21/2018 11:26:07 AM PDT by hanamizu
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Speakers of “Black English” discriminate against black people who speak “White English,” so it’s a wash.


17 posted on 09/21/2018 11:28:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Science is a method, not a belief system.)
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Strange how African Blacks speak the Queen’s English impeccably. It’s the American Blacks who take pride in speaking Ebonics. Whose fault is that?


20 posted on 09/21/2018 11:31:30 AM PDT by txrefugee
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If a group sets themselves apart from the main stream through alternate linguistics (among other things), they can expect to receive a different reaction. It’s purely their choice if they want to be associated with ebonics or standard American English or maybe elevate their vernacular by expanding their vocabulary in excess of that of mainstream America.

I believe we all have the capability of speaking well, regardless of race.


21 posted on 09/21/2018 11:38:12 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Sessions couldn't find his own ass if Al Franken was grabbing it at the time ))))
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“dismantling this construction is part of the fight for racial justice”

LOL, you’ll never dismantle that and it has nothing to do with racial injustice, rather culture. You don’t hear that ebonics type crap from people born and raised in the suburbs and rural areas, even though some of them may be difficult to understand, it has nothing to do with their race.

These Stanford people need to get out more into the real world and stop imagining things.


23 posted on 09/21/2018 11:39:08 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Duh!

Sorry, but a -

1/ Goofy, difficult to pronounce first name, and ...
2/ A “May I AXE who’s calling?” on the telephone, and ...
2/ I be, you be, he bees conjugation

doesn’t easily fit in the world of professional business.

My mother in law was the daughter of two Russian immigrants, and attended public school in Brooklyn. Early on, she was put in a speech therapy class to kill both the Russian and “Noo Yawk” accents. She spoke the King’s English for all of her years.

If we weren’t so hung up on this tribalism krap, that could be easily done. In my airline career, I came in contact with literally thousands of Blacks who were not accent limited. Who the hell cares what language or accent you speak with at home - when you’re outta the house, leave it there!

Half my family were Scottish immigrants - I went tae firs’ grade wi’ a Glasgow burr. I leave that at home, too.


25 posted on 09/21/2018 11:43:08 AM PDT by QBFimi (It is not your responsibility to finish the work of perfecting the world... Tarfon)
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ZC says “Redneck Vernacular English” is viewed as less “trustworthy, intelligent and well-educated” than so-called standard “white liberal” English

Fixed it.

26 posted on 09/21/2018 11:43:51 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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Professor John Rickford says “Black Vernacular English” is viewed as less “trustworthy, intelligent and well-educated” than so-called standard “white” English, and that “dismantling this construction is part of the fight for racial justice.”

Hey, 'Professor' (sic) John Rickford, maybe, just maybe “Black Vernacular English” is viewed as less “trustworthy, intelligent and well-educated” than standard English because it is less “trustworthy, intelligent and well-educated” than standard English.

27 posted on 09/21/2018 11:44:26 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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Mantan Moreland always had a scene like this in his Charlie Chan movies from the 1940s.

Incomplete Sentences

-PJ

28 posted on 09/21/2018 11:47:26 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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