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Liberals and the moral high ground
5/24/2018 | Me

Posted on 05/24/2018 12:22:59 AM PDT by Crucial

Liberals know about control and power. They revel in both. Power is what a liberal craves most. It seems counterintuitive but it is true. After all liberals are always taking about rights and what is fair. What I have realized is that liberals understand the most powerful weapon of all in a free society: the moral high ground.

Liberals attain the moral high ground in a different way, however. They figure out what is attitude or behavior most destructive to the majority and then they put that attitude or behavior on higher ground. They then start a shame campaign to make opposition to that behavior and attitude a social sin. In this way they turn normal life upside down and take advantage of the chaos and oppress those who do not conform.

In this way, liberals maintain control, through social engineering. Their worst fear are people who think independently from themselves.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: liberals; moralhighground; socialengineering
I have ceased to feel any guilt or anxiety for not conforming to the prevailing moral attitudes of our society. I follow my own compass.
1 posted on 05/24/2018 12:22:59 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

Yes, they’re control freaks.

The Left is working hard to deconstruct the long-running traditions, values, and integrity of American culture.

Simply put, the Left must be eviscerated.


2 posted on 05/24/2018 12:31:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Crucial

The currency of capitalism is money. The currency of Socialism is power.

The left uses moral high ground and immoral high ground and creep slowly to the left as they have to keep replenishing their issues.

We are on the cusp of the worst. Soon it will be Nambla friendly then incest friendly, beastiality, erosion of free speech, criminalizing christianity or perverting it from within.

There is no end on the road of the left, they’ll always find another issue and eventually it will destroy us.


3 posted on 05/24/2018 1:02:30 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: Crucial

In order to get a moral high ground, they need an alternative morality, one they can claim is “better” than the traditional one. Acceptance of depravity, from a non-spiritual worldly view, is regarded as superior to the restrictive format of traditional marriage and family, because it’s easy. Sin is far easier than virtue, so that’s what is regarded as their new morality.


4 posted on 05/24/2018 1:38:42 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Crucial

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5 posted on 05/24/2018 2:04:41 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Crucial
I noticed in high school and college that the teacher pet, student government types tended to be liberals, to have a thirst for power and prestige, and were gossipy and eager to discern and ape what was trendy. In contrast, conservatives tended to like sports, business, and the military, and to form their own opinions.

While conservative and liberal tendencies reflect personality traits, those traits are rooted in both genetics and experience. Some fairly good science indicates that a common and highly conserved genetic mechanism among social species is at work, with numerous experiments discerning a continuum of personality traits along a dimension from cautious (conservative) to eager for new experiences (liberal).

Yet we learn from experience, and the facts of life are inherently conservative and often result in changes in views and personality. The bad life experiences that liberalism invites as a philosophy and personality trait tend to lead to pain and chaos. After a dose of that, most people become cautious and embrace the rules, meaning, and purpose that conservative conduct and thinking offer.

Thus, despite genetics, liberals often become conservative as they get older. Unfortunately, this does not always translate to voting conservative or to thinking in conservative political terms. With conservatives deliberately marginalized in education and the news media, it usually takes a combination of hard times and attractive, against the grain figures like Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump for conservatives to make political breakthroughs that accrue new political support.

6 posted on 05/24/2018 2:32:02 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Crucial

In the words of Cato the Elder, “The Left delenda est”


7 posted on 05/24/2018 2:43:38 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Gene Eric; Crucial

The devil was the original Communist Liberal Elite, who thought it was his right (not as one in need of mercy and grace) to sit in glory and power (Isaiah 14:14) and presumed to “climb up some other way” (John 10:1) than that which is ordained of God (by mercy avoiding what one deserves, and under grace receiving what one does not deserve, and also rewarding obedience, which God motivates and enables, whereby overcomers will sit with Christ in His throne, Revelation 3:21, which promotion the devil arrogantly presumed).

And being abased for his self-exaltation in the original “Occupy Movement,” he proceeded to work to seduce Eve with the psychology of the original victim-entitlement mentality, and its “share the wealth” demand, presenting God as maliciously selfishly keeping Eve away from Divine power which was rightfully hers. Thus her rebellion to obtain what was withheld seemed be just, while the devil, who presented himself as her savior, obtained power by her “vote,” becoming the “god of this world.” (2 Corinthians 4:4)

And ever since then he was sought to enlarge his kingdom and rob God of glory and gain it for himself in an alternative world, with perverse corruptions of what God ordained, even marriage and Christ and the gospel, and which world he works to accomplish thru his proxy servants. Who likewise typically seduce souls with the victim-entitlement mentality, though they typically have actual injustices to work with, but which are used to obtain power by the proxy servants of satan, whether it be Stalin or lesser devils, and who end up being the only ones who having all that they worked souls be envious of.

Yet even many liberals can have their “day of salvation” (1Co. 6:2) in which they come to God as convicted, guilty, damned and destitute but penitent sinners, and cast all their faith upon the risen Lord Jesus to save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood, who died for them and rose again. And thus who are baptized and live that faith out. (Romans 3:23–5:1; Acts 10:43–47; 15:7–9)


8 posted on 05/24/2018 2:55:44 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Rockingham
...with numerous experiments discerning a continuum of personality traits along a dimension from cautious (conservative) to eager for new experiences (liberal).

I strongly question the notion that conservative = cautious and liberal = open to new experiences. I saw the Jordan Peterson video on the topic and simply disagree.

My observations tell me that liberals shield themselves from new ideas and experiences. They cannot tolerate anything that challenges their world view, to the point that some of them react violently to expressions of ideas that contradict it. Those snowflake meltdowns we were treated to after the election were not the result of being open to new experiences. On the contrary, those liberal kids are terrified of stepping away from the liberal plantation. Freedom and the responsibilities that go with it scare them.

9 posted on 05/24/2018 4:29:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Crucial

The liberal go-to weapon is the shame and guilt of racism. Very powerful - racism(preferring family) is nearly universal. It is similar to the Church condemning sexual feelings.


10 posted on 05/24/2018 4:30:45 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: Crucial

Liberals never attain the moral high ground. They sometimes manage to convey the ILLUSION of morality, aided by the slick sales campaigns of their media friends. But as we’ve seen with some of the recent hot-mike, unintended disclosures, there’s no real moral substance behind their actions. It’s always and only about the power.


11 posted on 05/24/2018 5:49:24 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: IronJack; Crucial

There is only one way to beat liberalism and that is to go full Alinsky on them. Insult them every chance we get and hold them to their ridiculously low standards to actually differentiate in the public square how loony they really are.


12 posted on 05/24/2018 6:28:55 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: Crucial
All governments, from town council to national, are the source of community power. Therefor it attracts those who crave power (essentially: bullies).

The attempt by the Founding Fathers to create a government more answerable to the people was admirable, and lasted for quite a while, but those who lust for power have figured out how to use the People's government against them.

Thus we have the Ruling Elite and the Deep State, those who are loath to give up their power.

13 posted on 05/24/2018 6:34:50 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Crucial

I like what you said, especially the shame campaign and social engineering part. It’s all so true.


14 posted on 05/24/2018 6:35:46 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Fhios
The left uses moral high ground and immoral high ground and creep slowly to the left as they have to keep replenishing their issues.


You are absolutely correct with the "replenishing of the issues" the left constantly does this with the aid of their propaganda arm, the mainstream media. They are constantly creating new propaganda issues, which are mass presented to the public as "news".

Sometimes, the issue is not even an agenda issue, still mass presented to mass feed it to the public.

There are only about half a dozen critical issues to survival of the country, and the left never voluntarily discusses them. Only Trump is dealing with them.

15 posted on 05/24/2018 6:48:37 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The MSM is the enemy of the American people)
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To: Crucial

The left is self destructive and seek to take everyone down with them.


16 posted on 05/24/2018 7:09:03 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Crucial

Today’s Liberals have NO Morals, NO values, and NO Ethics. They are all Self-centered, Power-Hungry Anti-American-Citizen. They side with anything, any group, any person who is against the USA. They are the problem.


17 posted on 05/24/2018 7:10:30 AM PDT by RollingThunder (i Liberals = Lackadaisical Idiotic Bitter Egregious Radical Aggressive Losers Society.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Exactly. And refuse to concede the battlefield.

WE are not wrong for insisting that men use the men’s room. THEY are demented for suggesting otherwise.

WE are not at war with women because we want to protect life. THEY are demented for defending muslimes and serial predators like Bill Clinton.

We are not murderers because we demand our right to defend our lives and loved ones with guns if necessary. THEY are threats to society by disarming the innocent and defending the guilty.

WE are not haters for insisting that people who come to this country obey its laws. THEY are a danger to our civilization by insisting that our laws are irrelevant and that we’re obligated to open our doors to people who want to destroy us.


18 posted on 05/24/2018 9:07:19 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: IronJack; All

They nearly always convey the illusion of morality. They use that power to drive us with whip of shame and ostracism to accept views we normally would not accept naturally.

They create a prison or a societal matrix from which it is difficult to escape. They use the mass media to shape our beliefs. They use the government and the law to enforce their views. There is really no way to escape except to fight and they make that a dangerous endeavor to one’s reputation, one’s livelihood and in extreme cases, one’s health.

This is why Trump should be given so much credit and support.


19 posted on 05/24/2018 9:14:14 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: exDemMom
You have a point, but the definitions used by psychologists are more artful and restrictive than ordinary usage. If you think of it as risky, alternative lifestyle choices being on the liberal side of things, with conventional, responsible choices being on the conservative side, that gets closer to what the psychologists mean.

Moreover, giving the political sense of liberal and conservative priority misses how psychologists think first of personality traits, then lifestyle and cultural choices, and with politics being derivative of them.

Of course, there are other approaches. A master of one on one persuasion, Lyndon Johnson used to ask his aides to find whether the target was a Momma's boy or Daddy's boy. Johnson would then fashion his entire pitch based on that information.

Similarly, over a long legal career, a friend of mine found that liberals tended to be Momma's boys, with conservatives being Daddy's boys. References to the Democrats as the Mommy party and the GOP as the Daddy party can be taken as in agreement with that insight.

20 posted on 05/24/2018 11:01:01 AM PDT by Rockingham
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