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China Loves America’s Guns So Much It’s Copying Them
War is Boring ^ | May 4, 2018 | Charlie Gao

Posted on 05/04/2018 7:12:43 AM PDT by C19fan

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China58 weapons20 If you ask an American what their idea of a budget AR-15 brand is, you would probably get answers like Stag Arms, Palmetto State Armory and Anderson Arms — all American companies. However, if you asked a Canadian what their idea of a budget AR-15 brand is, you would likely get one answer. Norinco.

China’s Norinco has been cloning and selling American designs on the international market for decades. In the United States, the company is banned because it tried to sell guns directly to gangs in the 1990s.

Regardless, here are some of the most popular American guns Norinco makes clones of.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: china; guns
My only question is what popular firearm Norinco does not clone. They make a popular clone of the SKS.
1 posted on 05/04/2018 7:12:43 AM PDT by C19fan
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I had a Polytech M14S (Chicom M1A) once. The receiver was considered superior to American manufacturers (forged, I think) but the bolt’s were ridiculously soft. Fulton Armory made a good business turning them into match-grade rifles.


2 posted on 05/04/2018 7:15:46 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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The Pardner shotguns mimick the Remington 870. I bought one for a little over $200. You can’t beat that. The issue is consistent quality. I had to file down a couple parts to get it to load correctly. It now works great and I saved a boat load of money.


3 posted on 05/04/2018 7:18:07 AM PDT by Snowybear
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They probably bought, or were given, the prototypes from us. We have no idea how much money the Clintons owed them. Bill gave them MRV, why not other weapons based items?

rwood


4 posted on 05/04/2018 7:21:39 AM PDT by Redwood71
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That’s what they do best.....copy...........................


5 posted on 05/04/2018 7:23:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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The SKS made by Norinco was not, strictly speaking, a clone - it was (for a little while) the standard arm of the Red Chinese Army, and the Soviets (who invented it) gave them the design (and even helped them build it initially, including with Soviet parts). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS#Chinese

If you don’t keep the bolt very clean, the sumbitch will slam-fire and mimic full auto.


6 posted on 05/04/2018 7:24:38 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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China doing what China does best.

Let other countries/people go through the cost of R+D, proof of concept, field trials and building the name/brand.
They clone it and reduce their bottom line by hundreds of millions.

They have done it with everything from watches to cars to firearms.


7 posted on 05/04/2018 7:33:59 AM PDT by oldvirginian (Come And Take It! The Rats of Tobruk to Erwin Rommel. 1941)
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To: Red Badger

The same was true for Japan for a few years. Just a few years...


8 posted on 05/04/2018 7:49:59 AM PDT by GingisK
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I have a Chinese copy of the Winchester M1887 lever action shotgun. It is a truly great piece!
I wish they would clone the Mauser M1896 Broom handle.
Especially in the .45cal.
Chinese made pirated copies of the Broomhandle in .45 so the ammo would be compatible with M1911s, and Thompsons.
I would love to own a copy of that in modern materials, but I would settle for the 9mm version.


9 posted on 05/04/2018 7:53:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Or to got further, what western technology have they not cloned?


10 posted on 05/04/2018 8:01:57 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Red Badger
That’s what they do best.....copy!

We should nickname China "Xerox". :-D

11 posted on 05/04/2018 8:05:11 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Malignant Moral Cancer on Society!)
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To: GingisK

Japan copied, then improved upon the things copied.

China just copies.............


12 posted on 05/04/2018 8:14:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Remember all the great work Obama did for the black community?.............. Me neither.)
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Copying, reverse enginneering, patent violations, copyright violations, counterfitting, etc., etc. , etc., all that’s known as leading edge research in China.


13 posted on 05/04/2018 9:06:29 AM PDT by Will88
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They won’t to that forever.


14 posted on 05/04/2018 9:58:50 AM PDT by GingisK
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Cultural Appropriation....

(After the recent prom dress story)


15 posted on 05/04/2018 11:20:38 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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I remember when the Winchester 1897 clones started showing up at Cowboy Action Shooting. They had nothing but problems. By getting them reworked by competent gunsmiths, they became as reliable as 100 year old Winchesters. In recent years, there seems to be more of them and there are less problems. I wonder if Norico corrected their problems or if they are going through a remanufacturer before being sold to CAS people, now.

I also heard that the M14/M1A1 clones had soft parts, too. Again, they could be fixed by competent gunsmiths, but the cost was such that they could have gotten a first class American made one by the time they were rebuilt.

They also made a copy of the Browning .22 Semi-Auto one upon a time. I had one that I bought really cheap, that had soft parts and malfunctioned a lot. I have since replaced it with a genuine Browning and have not had a bit of trouble. It is going to my granddaughter when she gets old enough.

In all cases, it looks like if you accept soft critical parts, you can buy for half price of the original. Not for me.


16 posted on 05/05/2018 9:25:27 AM PDT by jim_trent
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