Teacher's post about parents ‘coddling' kids goes viral

wcmh ^ | Apr. 11, 2018 | WCMH web staff

[bgill]

A fed up teacher's post about disrespectful students and their parents is going viral. On March 28, Julie Marburger, a teacher in Texas, had had enough. She posted several photos on Facebook, including a lengthy post describing an experience with a parent who criticized her for disciplining a student child. "Teachers are some of the most kind and giving people I have ever met, yet they get treated so disrespectfully from all sides. Most parents can't stand to spend more than a couple hours a day with their kid, but we spend 8 with yours and 140 others just like him. Is it too much to ask for a little common courtesy and civil conversation?" Marburger wrote in the post.

[bgill]

Report cards come out later this week, and I have nearly half of my students failing due to multiple (8-10) missing assignments. Most of these students and their parents haven't seemed to care about this over the past three months, though weekly reports go out, emails have been sent and phone calls have been attempted. But now I'm probably going to spend my entire week next week fielding calls and emails from irate parents, wanting to know why I failed their kid. My administrator will demand an explanation of why I let so many fail without giving them support

Setting aside her being mamsy pamsy in her rant, this not taking responsibility for their kids and seeing their homework is turned in is the main problem with today's students. No, Mom, your kid is NOT an angel. Yes, Dad, your kid is a bully that needs to be stopped. If your kid breaks something, you need to see that it is replaced and discipline your child so he doesn't do it again. If your kids says she doesn't have homework that day, then your little sweetie pie is a big fat liar. Most schools these days have their assignments and grades on line. So, look at them! If there's a 0 for a grade, then it's your responsibility to find out why and your responsibility to trot little Devontre down to his teacher to hand it in personally and ride his butt so he's never late on an assignment again.

This young new teacher needs to grow a backbone. There is no reason to dismiss the class even if the bell rings before they straighten up the room. Don't let them out of their seats or it'll be chaos. Strip the room of anything fun and make them earn it back. Keep a notebook of all correspondence to the parents so you can present it to them when they come ranting about their precious princesses.

[Sacajaweau]

ne of my 's tweacher called and said my son was always handing his homework in late. I told the teacher...then put it on his report and let him figure out what he wants to do.

It was HIS responsibility not mine.

He's an extraordinary person in his field.

[deport]

A posting from yesterday, different source, with over 100
comments if anyone cares to scan thru them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3646086/posts?page=1
Texas teacher reveals how ‘rude parents, disruptive children
and poor pay’ have forced her to... ^

[stanne]

When administration does not support the teacher there Is no discipline. When administration goes against the teacher along with the permissive parents there is anarchy. The child is in charge - and KNOWS it.

This teacher refers to her student as ‘kids’. That is a red flag to me that she is in a low standard environment and/or was raised in one. She’ll never get discipline out of her students if she doesn’t use proper language

She is in a school where parents and administration does not value turning in assignments

Ranting on social media I not an answer

[Night Hides Not]

IIRC, in another thread I read where she was in her second year of teaching. From personal experience, which seemed to be echoed by others, it takes 5 years to be an effective sixth grade teacher.

That's about how long it took me to get used to teaching six graders, and I was only doing it one night a week at our church. Man, those first two years sucked, but I learned from it.

Call me insane, but I'm finishing up my 20th year. Now that I've left the rat race, I'll do some substitute teaching next school year, at the request of our ISD's superintendent. We've known each other about 20 years, as he was in a variety of positions as my kids went through school.

It's tough to bring it every day, but kids are more attentive when the teacher is engaged and enthusiastic. At least, that's been my experience, and I've done it with class sizes as large as 30 raucous 12 YO's.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Do you have your concealed carry weapon picked out yet?

[stanne]

Same. My children’s grades were always their responsibility my job was to make sure they are, slept and got to school on time. I hides them in high school in choosing tracts (calculus VS statistics etc)

When they failed they knew it was on them. There were terrible teachers along the way. Great ones too. I went to all parent teacher meetings I knew who was who. There were some who were going to be brutal then give my hard working child a fail

Those teachers I’d meet with privately at the end of school year and suggest they simply pass my child or I’d go past the administration silly enough to keep this teacher employed

I was supportive on that level.

But their grades were their own - joy or pain. From early on. Before it matters

[stanne]

Letting autocorrect take over.

I hides them was supposed to be I helped them

[Night Hides Not]

Do you have your concealed carry weapon picked out yet?

LOL

[Kickass Conservative]

My Niece went from Teaching in a Private School to a Public School.

The difference in the behavior of the Students was shocking.

[Mears]

“The difference in the behavior of the Students was shocking.”

—

The public school probably had all the kids kicked out of the private schools——or not accepted in the first place.

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[I want the USA back]

Too many parents don’t discipline their brats and can’t say NO to them. Those brats get older and become problems for society.

[Amendment10]

As a consequence of the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress selling the country to foreign nations for many decades, tired, working parents have to use public schools as day care centers imo.

But given that parents can elect new, Trump-supporting lawmakers to Congress in 2018 elections, Trump’s vision for MAGA will permit public schools to once again perform their mission of teaching students.

In fact, consider that if patriots work with their state lawmakers in supporting Trump to lead the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, that the states will find new revenues for many things including public schools.

• "Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me

• "Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me

And to make his vision for MAGA last as long as possible, Pres. Trump needs to lead the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

[Bodega]

“Setting aside her being mamsy pamsy in her rant, This young new teacher needs to grow a backbone..Don’t let them out of their seats or it’ll be chaos..”
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I am amazed at your response. So, you think one person can get a classroom of well developed miscreants to remain in their seats and listen to a clean up lecture or any thing a teacher might say? Not if they come from certain parts of our country or cities or even the burbs. And what is interesting, these kids, if they make it, act just as crudely when they get into college and find the teacher has the slightest expectation of them to “work”or turn work in in a timely manner. By then their parents who never had control in the first place are well and truly gone from the academic scene.

I taught for almost 30 years and my last years in a mixed ethnic school. The Asians and most of the whites were fine...but those black kids were an anathema. Hispanics were variable. I would never willingly teach again and I will not recommend it as an occupation.

The teachers cannot be expected to take the place of parents and the school administration from the superintendent down must decide what they want in terms of “ruly” behavior. If the kid deviates, call the parents, and if the behavior is bad enough, kick them out to a building made of bricks, concrete, and a bath room without doors or plumbing. (If it has plumbing they’ll just rip it out.) Parental pick up and no readmission unless an agreement signed by the parent is in place.

No wonder we have such an unruly class of people and the numbers are not diminishing.

[wintertime]

Let's call homework what it is. “After-schooling”!

It is the parents and children doing the really hard work of learning and teaching **AT HOME** that should have happened earlier in the day in the institutional school.

My anecdotal observation is that academically successful children (homeschooled or institutionalized) both spend about the same amount of time IN THE HOME doing school work.

So?....After all those hours in an institutional school, why is more work needed after a long day in school? Where are the studies that measure how much information is actually acquired in the institutional setting as compared to that achieved **IN THE HOME**!?

It is entirely possible that institutional schooling is a complete waste of the child's life and the taxpayer's money.

My homeschooled kids never spent more than two hours in formal school work each day and every Thursday we had an outing ( no formal school work). Yet,...By the ages of 13, 12, and 13 they were enrolled in college. All are successful adults, leaders in their communities and work, happily married, and raising beautiful families.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Bring back male teachers and corporal punishment. I remember thinking about the big wooden paddle with holes to cut air drag that my 6’7” male history teacher used - caused me to button my lip many a time.